WTC7 collapse sound & seismic spikes

There are a lot of WTC7 collapse videos but the sound is very rare like the last seconds prior to the collapse.

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• WTC7
• collapse
• NIST
• Report
• demolition
• controlled
• sound
• 9/11
• Terror
• Attack

[rushfan9thcmd]

NO matter what possible theory may be the most accurate, those that jumped to their deaths and died inside these buildings deserve every effort to get to the truth about the real massacre that happened on 9/11. One thing that is most accurate is that the official story is not the true series of events. Any effort to find the truth must continue!!! ...great video!!!!

[StevenM818]

This Google Video captured the explosions:

27minutes, 45seconds in:

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Then at 29:07, Reporter Al Jones gives his eyewitness account, saying that it looked like WTC-7 was brought down by a demo crew. He then goes on to explain that it was brought down by an "explosion"

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And then at 31:09, a witness who's interviewed says he heard a loud noise that sounded like "a clap of thunder", & then WTC-7 started to fall:

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Replace DOTs w/ a period

[joshpcolts18]

The only problem i have with conspiracy theorists are their inclination to scream 'CONSPIRACY!'. Although that may be the accurate term, when the brainwashed (blissfully ignorant) hear that they automatically tune you out.

There will always be those that want to take what was put on the news as the truth. these are the same people the discredited charles darwin and persecuted Galileo. One thing history has taught us is that the majority are not always right, in face, they are usually wrong.

[PapaOystein]

@achimspok You think an INSANELY LOUD BANG would be reduced to a mere whisper? No. It would be reduced to a VERY LOUD BANG.

Besides, there were hundreds of clean-up crews only 100 m away with practically no obstruction. FDNY, NYPD, paramedics. andmost importantly demolition workers who know explosions when they hear them.

No one on the scene reported hearing explosions loud and brisant enough before and at the initiation of collapse. Some said it was remarkably silent.

[achimspok]

@PapaOystein You might be right about the INSANELY LOUD BANG of usual demolitions. How ever, the view of the lower floors is blocked by a lot of buildings and any sound is blocked too. Nevertheless we hear something. The released WTC7 videos (by NIST after a lawsuit) include this video with a better and unfaded sound. Other released WTC7 videos show missing parts of the initiation. Why should anyone cut away the moment of initiation? Finally there are witnesses.

[PapaOystein]

@achimspok An explosive that does not create the same loud noise will not break the kind of steel that holds up these huge buildings. So you have an INSANELY LOUD BANG, that every person and every recording device for a mile around (that is: every video, and tens of thousands of people will hear waaaay above everything else.

Black Boxes are not made of cryptonite. They CAN be destroyed.

Sniffing dogs trained on explosives went over the debris.

Steel with unusual failure modes was investigated

[achimspok]

@PapaOystein Yes, RDX is the one that generates that loud noise expected by NIST. No shockwave was reported that blew out all windows in downtown Manhatten. Those explosions do not generate much seismic vibrations but debris that hit the ground probably do.

Demolition crews find what they look for. Nobody found the Black Boxes??? ...bright red color sending a beep for easy locating it??? I think as long as someone searched for the signs of a usual commercial CD that long he will find nothing.

[PapaOystein]

@achimspok "You exclusively talk about RDX" - I do? Where? I talk about explosives that generate shockwaves capable of breaking steel. That is the main point, really.

"Seismographs?" - Look at the title of this video - not origibally my claim. Good that you agree little to no seismic events would be expected

"invisible lower floors" - right. Which stiil means: No hard evidence

"Who looked for it?" - demolition crews might well spot it even if they are not looking. They know what it looks like

[achimspok]

@PapaOystein Sound? You exclusively talk about RDX. Seismographs? Depends on the kind and position of charges (if any). The 1993 bombing wasn't measurable at PAL at all. Flashes? You are the one who reminded me of invisible lower floors, aren't you? Nothing was found? Who looked for it? Btw, even a 6000gal tank was gone without a trace.

[PapaOystein]

@achimspok That thermal expansion was not dealt with in the building codes used to erect the towers. Structural engineers follow building codes. If builing code does not tell them to consider thermal expansion, there is no reason to assume they would. Chances are, they would not.

Ask any structural engineer about how they work. A good friend of mine is a structural engineer. He certifies designs. All day long he computes if design is in accordance with building codes.

[PapaOystein]

@achimspok 0.4 miles is nothing for structural-steel-busting high explosives. For each major steel member busted, there would not be a low rumble easily mistaken for wind. There would be, for each individual member, a clear, crisp, sharp and INSANELY, AWESOMELY, STUNNINGLY loud BANG. It would have to go BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!! BANG!!!. Refer to any video or real CDs, It didn't. Therefore, no explosive demolition.

[achimspok]

@PapaOystein

The point is, there is a noise 0,4 miles away. That noise is not the wind. And NIST lied about the absence of explosion sounds, the absence of witnesses and the necessary noise level. They even mentioned the WTC7 ramp below ground level and next to the critical columns in just one sentence.

The seismic events were measured 50 miles away. So obviously it wasn't some truck.

What ever it was, there was no investigation. There were several years of preparing for ONE outcome.