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Tariq Ali - Obama, Pakistan and the US empire

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  • @ALTERED13TH Well you are completly wrong. I live in Chile and we dont have the number of homeless you have. In fact you can have a free house in Chile if you dont have one... It s not a big house, but we dont have the number of homeless I saw in the US... thousands on each city.

    65% of the wealth in 5% of the people...shameless

    no sir. The US is not an example of kindness with your fellow citizen

    And by the way your quality of education is number 38

    SO let me tell you about the greatest country

  • @ALTERED13TH I will not debate larger problems with your logic because this is not the place to educate a person. But please study history for god's sakes.

    Just your first phrase is so wrong at so many levels, I really dont know where to begin.

    Just 4 facts.

    The US is the greatest terrorist around.

    The capitalist system is bankrupt.

    The whole economic system is broken.

    Massive concentration of wealth, massive poverty.

    The only thing that keeps the system going is the lack of an alternative.

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  • residentzombie is a con troll zombie

  • @khelbenrage An education system in America is based upon unionized government monopoly micro managing it. The American doesn't teach people in America about free market economics and civil liberties of the philosophy of classic liberalism (freedom). So yes the gov't union which doesn't allow competition (school choice/vouchers) are degrading and will continue until true competition is implimented to overthrow bad tenured teachers that only care about their paycheck and job security.

  • @khelbenrage How do those workers which produce the blood, sweet, and tears of their labor to build those homes come from? Also how is a fair wage for their labor determined? Surely you don't believe in government slavery over it's citizens (I think you do). America does not and hasn't had free market capitalism for over 100 years. What you are describing is your works posioning free trade and competition to determine fair wages for all. America is corporatism NOT capitalism.

  • @Ethanaxelrod

    Jeez. That by itself is completely hypocritical. The western has supported and *installed* NUMEROUS dictators throughout the world.

    Saddam Hussein, the shah in Iran, Augusto Pinochet, Batista, Somoza... The list goes on.

    And they have supported Hosni Mubarak, Ben Ali, M.Gaddafi, Zia Ul-Haq a.o.

    Any talk of the Western powers trying to improve human rights and make the world a better place is just utter garbage. History is riddled with examples.

    It's about their *interests*.

  • very interesting, its a shame that a lot of the us citizenry gets grouped in with the failures of our government

  • @stoadirizer This is so profoundly misinformed. A huge portion of the world is backwards by western standards and does not respect human rights. We are trying to make the world a better place here and tossing out dictators is a good way to do it. Ali is very hypocritical, he only sees the atrocities of those on the other side, never his own. He is after all speaking at a Marxist forum for blank sake.

  • @5332wonderboy Until he fails at something and must then deal with challenges to his power.

    Idealistic, very naive. This is the sort of thinking that has lead to must misery on this planet.

  • @khelbenrage (1/7) It is true that Chile’s poverty rate is below the US poverty rate, but this is very misleading. The GDP per Capita of the US, or the Gross Product of the entire economy divided by the country’s population, is 47,000 USD per year (2010), while Chile’s GDP per Capita is 12,000 USD per year for the same period. In the United States, poverty rate is defined as a family living on less than 22,000 USD per year, well above the overall average family income for families in Chile.

  • @khelbenrage (2/7) These statistics are similar for Venezuela and Cuba.

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