(Bill Maher, cont'd):And in the same way, if I question whether this is the right strike at the right time and I question the leadership...they've got a nerve asking we to be consistent with the way they've been. It's the same kind of deal. A lot of times, what happens is you have a situation where, these guys, these writers have been led into a situation where there is no exit strategy and they may not win this war. Sp we're not wrong to criticize it. This is still America
(Bill Maher, cont'd): I'll make an analogy because writers live by analogies and they are the lifeblood of a lot of good writing. When liberals, and most of the people who are in the union I'd imagine are liberals When liberals criticize the conduct of the Iraq war...the Bush administration tried to conflate that position with saying you don't support the troops, and that was a lie then and is a lie now.
A quote from Bill Maher (on HBO's "Real Time" - 1/11/08):
Especially in this age, where no matter what you say, corporations are taking over and strangling this country and strangling little men, we do need unions more than other But what I dot not love is the atmosphere that has taken grip on this town. An atmosphere of witch hunts and threats coming from the union, and I don't like that.
And what happened with the WGA's complaint to the National Labor Relations Board that AMPTP weren't "negotiating in good faith"? Was this just a PR tactic or does the WGA have proof the AMPTP were screwing around? If so, what can the feds do? Is everyone going to just have to wait until the Directors Guild talks are over for the next move?
Seems like the only provable fact here is that each side hates the other. I can't believe that the AMPTP are so stupid that they go out of thier way to insult and humiliate the WGA. You seem to be saying that the AMPTP provoked this strike and are trying to keep it going.
Even if they're greedy vipers, or "cuthroats and weasels" as Letterman says, negotiations must go on. If the WGA ended talks and walked out, they'd be total assholes. Luckily that task and title has been filled -- by the AMPTP.
"You make it seem like AMPTP came to the negotiations seeking nothing but concessions from the WGA."
Yup. Pretty much. And the negotiations aren't entirely "secret". Both sides posted press releases while negotiating. And oddly, the AMPTP would always have press releases ready to go mere minutes after storming out of the room, as if they knew they were going to walk out.
It turns out that next Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, the hardworking heads of all Viacom, CBS, and Paramount Entertainment Divisions will be enjoying "award-winning accommodations," "world-renowned" spa treatments," "AAA Five Diamond" gourmet dining, and round after exhilarating round of "championship quality" golf during an executive retreat at The Boulders Resort and Golden Door Spa.
You're speaking about things I don't know about here. You make it seem like AMPTP came to the negotiations seeking nothing but concessions from the WGA. The WGA made concessions and then AMPTP just kept demanding more concessions? I don't know what to say, because the negotiations are secret, but if what you say is true, AMPTP are greedy vipers who can't be trusted so why negotiate at all?
I am so glad those suits get to relax and enjoy themselves while putting thousands of people out of work! Meanwhile, WGA members are holding fundraisers for people affected by the AMPTP's refusal to continue negotiations. Who's the asshole here?
(Bill Maher, cont'd):And in the same way, if I question whether this is the right strike at the right time and I question the leadership...they've got a nerve asking we to be consistent with the way they've been. It's the same kind of deal. A lot of times, what happens is you have a situation where, these guys, these writers have been led into a situation where there is no exit strategy and they may not win this war. Sp we're not wrong to criticize it. This is still America
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
(Bill Maher, cont'd): I'll make an analogy because writers live by analogies and they are the lifeblood of a lot of good writing. When liberals, and most of the people who are in the union I'd imagine are liberals When liberals criticize the conduct of the Iraq war...the Bush administration tried to conflate that position with saying you don't support the troops, and that was a lie then and is a lie now.
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
A quote from Bill Maher (on HBO's "Real Time" - 1/11/08):
Especially in this age, where no matter what you say, corporations are taking over and strangling this country and strangling little men, we do need unions more than other But what I dot not love is the atmosphere that has taken grip on this town. An atmosphere of witch hunts and threats coming from the union, and I don't like that.
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
And what happened with the WGA's complaint to the National Labor Relations Board that AMPTP weren't "negotiating in good faith"? Was this just a PR tactic or does the WGA have proof the AMPTP were screwing around? If so, what can the feds do? Is everyone going to just have to wait until the Directors Guild talks are over for the next move?
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
Seems like the only provable fact here is that each side hates the other. I can't believe that the AMPTP are so stupid that they go out of thier way to insult and humiliate the WGA. You seem to be saying that the AMPTP provoked this strike and are trying to keep it going.
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
Even if they're greedy vipers, or "cuthroats and weasels" as Letterman says, negotiations must go on. If the WGA ended talks and walked out, they'd be total assholes. Luckily that task and title has been filled -- by the AMPTP.
giantrobomonster 4 years ago
"You make it seem like AMPTP came to the negotiations seeking nothing but concessions from the WGA."
Yup. Pretty much. And the negotiations aren't entirely "secret". Both sides posted press releases while negotiating. And oddly, the AMPTP would always have press releases ready to go mere minutes after storming out of the room, as if they knew they were going to walk out.
giantrobomonster 4 years ago
It turns out that next Sunday, Monday, and Tuesday, the hardworking heads of all Viacom, CBS, and Paramount Entertainment Divisions will be enjoying "award-winning accommodations," "world-renowned" spa treatments," "AAA Five Diamond" gourmet dining, and round after exhilarating round of "championship quality" golf during an executive retreat at The Boulders Resort and Golden Door Spa.
giantrobomonster 4 years ago
You're speaking about things I don't know about here. You make it seem like AMPTP came to the negotiations seeking nothing but concessions from the WGA. The WGA made concessions and then AMPTP just kept demanding more concessions? I don't know what to say, because the negotiations are secret, but if what you say is true, AMPTP are greedy vipers who can't be trusted so why negotiate at all?
fieldmarshalcinque 4 years ago
I am so glad those suits get to relax and enjoy themselves while putting thousands of people out of work! Meanwhile, WGA members are holding fundraisers for people affected by the AMPTP's refusal to continue negotiations. Who's the asshole here?
giantrobomonster 4 years ago