Hiroshi Ikeda sensei

aikido

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Sports

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• aikido
• aikikai

[Adalberonmb]

Very good, Ikeda Sensei's aikido, I was impressed with the power and dominion over the Uke.

[sonsofdon]

@Varishnu true that! i hear from bjj artists (and presumably the same is true in judo, wrestling, etc.) that the real beauty of the art is in responding to the unpredictable moves of your opponent / sparring partner, like a fast-paced, physical game of chess. in a "real situation" and in a competition, it's more about the skill of the individual than the effectiveness of the art, and the element of surprise will defeat even the most prepared martial artist. "this art vs that art" is nonsense.

[sonsofdon]

@sagevorgen i.e., being 'in tune' with your attacker may very well allow you to see the attack before it happens, capturing the balance of your attacker (however you manage to do it) is still a very good idea, blending with the attack still works well when done well, and getting off the line of attack when appropriate - or entering directly into it when appropriate - can be VERY effective when done instinctively.

[sonsofdon]

@sagevorgen ...by including sparring and actual competition, but with extremely strict rules, without which people could die. in aikido, the uke (attacker) will give as much resistance he/she thinks the nage (thrower) can handle, but also knows when to use the great art of ukemi (falling, rolling, etc.) to avoid injury and safely return to his/her feet to attack again. of MAJOR value is that, while specific techniques may or may not work out in an actual fight, the principles will.. (cont'd)

[sonsofdon]

@sagevorgen good observation. you are correct: there are no competitions in aikido (with the exception of tomiki aikido), and no 'real' sparring either. the reality is that it would be far too dangerous. as an example, one of the basic techniques involves flipping someone from his/her wrist. if that person does not move with the direction of the technique, he/she will fracture his/her wrist. that applies to MANY aikido techniques. bjj, judo, and other arts deal with this danger by (cont'd)

[Wolfwood7149]

well sort of. As Ikeda sensei likes to say when you are learning at first you give your partner no resistance. Then, you resist and it doesn't matter. Resisting is a whole different problem though it isn't really possible with Sensei. You are going to move one way or the other, the only question you have to answer is how much pain you want to endure in the process.

By the way Jun doesn't fall like that for me. He isn't as compliant as you might think.

[lostorfound19]

@sagevorgen the attacker is flipping because the way you twist arms can easily break bones.

[sonsofdon]

by the way, much respect to you for actually asking the question. most people draw the incorrect conclusion without ever asking the question.

if you ever study aikido, you'll find that it can train your mind to remain calm and open when under (any kind of) attack, looking to understand the position and feelings of our attacker. this works wonders in the verbal and interpersonal arts, in the workplace, family, etc. good stuff.

[sonsofdon]

it is required if you don't want to break your wrist. aikido techniques are very dangerous (some use swords, with which competitions would result in fatalities) and must be applied in a spirit of resistant cooperation (uke only "cooperates" with the move if is done correctly). a street attacker might not be so fortunate as to know how to quickly change his momentum to avoid breaking his neck. the unique thing about aikido is that it strives to make peace and protect the attacker from injury..

[bushin64]

Sagevorgen - I thought this too when I first saw aikido. I saw an old video and thought "they are just falling down for this old man." In a way, uke "falls" to keep from getting too injured. The technique allows nage to strike or break a joint. Our dojo once had a judoka join our aikido class. I suppose he wanted to test my Sensei's mettle. My Sensei broke his wrist and scolded him for not taking the fall. Sensei does not hold back when training, you have to know how to prtoect yourself.