Ken Miller on Cob County Warning Stickers

Dr. Ken Miller talks about the error of singling out Evolution in a warning sticker on Biology textbooks.

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[Morthagg]

Morality is not owned by religion, procommenter. In fact, I think it is even a little disgusting when you base your moral principles solely on what a book/person/God tells you. That has nothing to do with being good and kind, that is only obedience. I don't need a God to be my conscience, I have one of my own. It grows naturally. Like feet.

On the vid: That would be a good sticker indeed.

[nekftw]

morality is an evolutionary effect, you can find morality in wolf packs, and other animal groups that live together, morality is given by SOCIETY not by invisible magical skydaddys

[truvelocity]

@rolfaalberg A lot of people think that evolution is only about things that happened in the distant past. That it's all about fossils. And that it has no relevance to what is going on today. I'd suggest looking at the Wikipedia article on "Long-Term Evolution Experiment with Escherichia Coli". But it is unreasonable to expect that any one experiment can cover all features of a large field like evolution.

[rolfaalberg]

@imikewillrockyou

Your argument implying that the fossil record somehow is evidence that science has got it all wrong is based on some highly dubious assumptions.

May I suggest your knowledge of palaeontology and understanding of evolutionary theory is somewhat incomplete?

[ThePregnancySlaves]

Fanatical plans are plots, as are conspiracies, with confederates & culprits whose actions are capricious. Of what does anything depend? Which door is not hinged on lynch pins? You can't gauge the reason, nor the genius, in things genuine as these curios are en-cased in the terror & evolvement of a fine-top salt grass that is a perennial drop-seed grass, with open panicles, that clumps densely.

[imikewillrockyou]

@logsdonj Dr. Denton's book. Evolution: A Theory in Crisis 1985. But you can do a little percentage verification on your own. Take a random sample of common plants and animals known today and just do an internet search to see what percentage you come up with. It's easy to find a fossil of just about everything alive today. Just depends on what you are checking. Fish have a high percentage while birds, for example, have a lower percentage. Even as little as 1% is a major problem..

[logsdonj]

@imikewillrockyou What's your source for these numbers?

[imikewillrockyou]

@logsdonj It is assumed that 99.99% of all species are extinct. Not because we have found those fossils but because Macro Evolution requires that many missing fossils. And yet upwards of 80% of current living species are represented in the fossil record, some dating 400 million years! Thus we have EMPIRICAL evidence the fossil record is not 99.99% incomplete! Thus we know those needed missing animals never existed. Study carefully what I just wrote and the lights might come on for you.

[Mortison77577]

@logsdonj

Some not so well-known scientists have written stuff criticizing evolutionary theory and not just creationists or ID proponents. It wasn't necessarily testable though. They probably got a little fame and fortune, but not much.

[Mortison77577]

@logsdonj

Thanks. You're a lot better than bunch of other evolutionists who just start cursing at me when I say that there's anything wrong with evolutionary theory.

[logsdonj]

@Mortison77577 Alright, we agree more than we disagree. I respect your skepticism.

[Mortison77577]

@logsdonj

I think it's true that in some way evolution did take place and that the current theory is the least inadequate explanation that they have. But they can't claim to know exactly how it works because the current theory is inadequate to explain that. And the small changes that they can demonstrate are not adequate to explain the large changes that have apparently happened. In addition, supernatural explanations don't really count as real explanations.