The Open Table - Donald Miller - "What I Don't Like"
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I feel the very same way about church. I am very much a Christian and I pray and trust in Him. In fact...I saw Mr. Miller this Sunday at a church. I had not been to church for a few years...and I enjoyed his speaking. AND then they sang Amazing Grace and a man was singing from his Heart and some college kids in front of me started snickering at him. sad.
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I know that place, and i go to that place. There's a church called Oakwood in hartland wi. and i absolutly love it there, because its so comforting knowing that you can share anything with them and they will listen and care.
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Honesty, its one of the most under appreciated qualities a person can have, regardless if they are Christians or not.
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@hubbs86 He isn't blind to the gospel, he simply sees that a big reason that many people do not believe in God is because of the judgement and poorly hidden sins of the church. And, yes, we do have to make up our mind about what we think about Jesus.
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I don't think he is bashing churches. I think he is just pointing out the fact that you don't need to just go to church because you feel you have to. If the church you go to doesn't do things in a Godly, loving way (and, no, love isn't always tolerance) then you don't need to stay there and allow them to teach you...
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@hubbs86 Those ellipses you have there are completely misleading. You're twisting his words. I think there are problems Donald Miller, because in some ways encourages seclusion from the Church, but he is not blind to the Gospel.
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"maybe it's a fault of mine, maybe it's a fault of the churches, i dont know...."
"Then you can decide for youself whether you like Jesus or not....if it's not comfortabel, unplug and go find somewhere else, cause they're not doing it right..."
The human heart is not inclined towards God.. it is sinful in every way (Jer 17:9) and hates God.
This guy is blind to the gospel... why are we reading this guys book again?
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"The Human heart has a hunger and a longing for God" - Mine doesn't, I believe the Humans have a desire to understand the world they live in and understand there place in it, how they fit in. For some people the God theroy, an assertion of upmost authority helps them achieve this for others they just understand reality.
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Are you stating the the Word can only come from the King James Version of the Bible, or were you stating what version you read?
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I've been recently reading his book Blue Like Jazz
After reading all these other comments i kinda agree disagree. I Agree that his ideas are more post modern but i think thats what I love. I feel like it was written for me. I don't agree that this is Churchless-christianity nonsense because i know a lot of wonderful christians who don't go to church all the time. Church is really important but i guess you just have to find the right one or right way to worship. Not all christians are the same.
I see where you come from, but I dont have a doubt in my mind that he loves Jesus. He's honest, which is what our world needs. There are enough books out there that sugar coat the christian life. Christianity isnt perfect, nor is it supposed to be. And I agree with you that he writes about himself. It should be about him, because you cant not personalize a relationship with God, it should be about him and God. I personally am a fan and have learned a lot from him.
McMandinko 2 years ago 13
And he's totally not a church-basher. If you read his books, you'll see that he's very pro-church. He even had a hand in planting a church in downtown Portland, a very unreached area. He does, however, recognize the blindness of the modern American church. Anyway, I got into his books a few years ago, and I found his writing to be a huge breath of fresh air. The guy understands the pivotal realtional dynamics of the Gospel perhaps better than any other Christian author or pastor I've heard.
thestationagent256 1 year ago 7