Did Jesus die for the sins of the world?
Was He willing to die for us?
Did Jesus die to appease an angry God?
According to the Bible, Jesus called upon God to save him. Let this cup pass from me...
Did Jesus die for the sins of the world?
Was He willing to die for us?
Did Jesus die to appease an angry God?
According to the Bible, Jesus called upon God to save him. Let this cup pass from me, he pleaded, but no help came.Neither from God or his followers.
His last words were, "My God, my God, why hath thou forsaken me".
Those were not the words of a man willing to die. Those were the words of a man wanting to live!!
Representing the Muslim perspective was Shabir ally: Shabir Ally holds a B.A. in Religious Studies from Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, with a specialization in Biblical Literature, and an M.A. in Religious Studies from the University of Toronto with a specialization in Quranic Exegesis.
He is now in his third year of PhD studies in Quranic Exegesis at the University of Toronto.
Shabir is the founder of the Islamic Information and Da'wah Centre in Toronto, Canada.
Representing the Christian side was Dr. James White: Dr. James is the director of Alpha and Omega Ministries, a Christian apologetics organization based in Phoenix , Arizona .
He is a professor, having taught Greek, Systematic Theology, and various topics in the field of apologetics.
He is also a critical consultant for the Lockman Foundation's New American Standard Bible. He has authored or contributed to more than twenty books, including The King James Only Controversy, The Forgotten Trinity, The Potter's Freedom, and The God Who Justifies.
The Topic of Debate: Was Jesus Christ Crucified as a Willing Sacrifice for the Sins of God's People?
Shabir Ally (www.Shabirally.com)
vs.
Dr. James White (www.AOMin.org)
(Seattle, USA 19th October, 2007)
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This is actually where Christianity fails. I'm not joking. This is just as invalid as the trinity arguments. I would have thought Unitarian Christians would hold a great fight but they believe in the same view of James White. But no, they have failed.
if forgiveness of sin can be acquired simply by asking God for forgiveness, first question one need to ask is how come Adam and Eve who had no experience of sinning and repenting learned about repenting after sinning? The 2nd question is if indeed Adam and Eve asked for forgiveness and God had accepted their apology, why was they expelled from the paradise? Quran teaching is never consistent. Moreover, it is so sad to see Muslim scholars try to misrepresent bible teachings in a deceptive manner.
I am very impressed with Shabir Ally's presentation and the way he addressed Dr. White's comments in the cross examination. Even those who may not necessarily agree with all of Shabir's arguments would acknowledge that he is significantly improving in his debates and is very scholarly.
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With Dua,
Sight.