Tibet And China :Truth from Facts II

History proves that Tibet was never part of China, until invaded by China in 1950

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[FalunGongIsAmazing]

@ TheBrolit

Do you know there are many LIES on CCP websites ???

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Sadly some of those lies are in circulation and many people have been fooled by them

[NarutoPHC]

hey phagpa108 , your videos do make a lot of sense about the past dynasties

TY for sharing

[TheBrolit]

@phagpa108 And btw, the reason why the Yuan lost their influence in Mongol lands in the latter part of their history is because the Mongols themselves saw the Yuan as too Chinese. The meaning of being Chinese back then (and it still does a little) was to be part of Chinese society.

[TheBrolit]

@phagpa108 Yet the Kangxi emperor considered the Han-Chinese as one of the most important ethnic groups of the Qing empire and not a subject race; the introduction of the Manchu-Han Imperial Banquet was the result of this. And why is the Forbidden city called the Forbidden city? Because only the Emperor, his eunuchs and govt. officials were allowed to enter; not the ordinary people; it has nothing to do with the Manchus, they didn't construct the Forbidden city.

[TheBrolit]

@phagpa108 Yes, the Yuan were Chinese; not the Mongols in general. Using the title 皇帝 was just one of the many examples of their sinification and the sinification of the Manchus was and is still even more noticeable. Maybe separatists of those people you've mentioned residing overseas don't consider themselves Chinese but Chinese nowadays is a nationality; every member of every ethnic group in China is considered as Chinese. When it comes to misinformation, the Tibet movement is no better.

[phagpa108]

@TheBrolit So The Mongols are Chinese, because they once conquered, ruled, and then were driven out of China? Just because they use the  word, 皇帝 ? LOL. Go talk to the Mongols about that. You'll get your head kicked in. Why do Chinese want to prove that " history proves" Mongols, or Tibetans or Manchu's or Uighurs are Chinese? These people do not see themselves as Chinese-- Chinese shouting that "History Proves", spouting the propaganda they have been taught does not change the facts of history

[TheBrolit]

@phagpa108 Some of which can be easily proven wrong. If there's any country China has a relation with in which historical issues form an obstacle in bilateral relations, it would be Japan and not Mongolia. There's more Sinophobia rapidly on the rise in Mongolia than there is Mongolophobia in China. The Yuan still held on to the title 皇帝 even when they were driven back to Mongolia and never ceased to claim that the Ming were their relatives.

[phagpa108]

The demand by Tibetans for independence is not "Wanton". Its a fact. based on the facts of history. Chinese can deal with this, or they can just try to kill all the Tibetans.... The Mongols Butchered an estimated 200 Million Chinese when they conquered China. Read some history. That's why Chinese still hate Mongols. Yes, when speaking to Chinese, Mongols used 皇帝 as a title-- just as when speaking to Americans the Chinese Communist Party uses the word "democracy"...

[phagpa108]

@TheBrolit You remember what you said, but you do not read much history. Both the Mongol and the Manchu Rulers of China-- after they conquered China-- FORBID Chinese to intermarry with the rulers (yes those did relax somewhat, later...). Tibetans on the other hand, were allowed to intermarry with both Manchu and Mongols, by the rulers. Why is it called the "Forbidden City"? Because Chinese were forbidden to go there by Manchu Rulers... Chinese were seen by Mongols and Manchu as a subject race.

[TheBrolit]

@phagpa108 But like I said before: there were also intermarriages between Han-Chinese and Mongols as well as Manchus and the Han-Chinese gained prominent positions in the Yuan and Qing governments. And even when the Yuan were driven back to Mongolia, they still butressed their claim on China and that the Ming were their relatives, they still held on to the title of 皇帝. Anyway, this whole thing of Tibetan independence is getting wanton.