Book of Mormon, Archaeology & Metals Part 5

Book of Mormon Swords not necessarily all metal.

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• swords
• metal
• archaeology

[hopeforyourlife]

Only a Mormon would ask "WHY would the remaining living people after the wars simply leave all those weapons laying around?"

You can't be serious.

In a war involving thousands. In muddy fields. You can't possibly imagine a scenario where pieces of weapons would be trampled into the mud and be concealed for very long periods?

In Britain, the Romans left literally tons of evidence behind.

They're still digging stuff up.

No wonder real archaeologists don't take Mormon seriously.

[TheBackyardProfessor]

Define "real archaeologists." I am just curious about your definition.

[veracities]

At the time of the massive final battles which resulted in Nephite annihilation(400AD), the Maya were slap in the middle of their early classic period (200-600AD), a time for them of relative stability. That means their culture didn't collapse until some 800 years after the demise of the BOM peoples! Not much similarity there then in timeline.

So what exactly did the mythical BOM peoples have in common with the Maya? The LGT was devised by Mormon academics 'cos they had nowhere else to go!

[TheBackyardProfessor]

John E Clark, a Mesoamerican archaeologist has shown this outdated view is not longer as viable as the newer dated one which shows different than you present here. I shall get that made into a video just for your good questions, and nice way of asking. Thanks for your civility. Video coming up shortly just for you my friend!

[77papercranes]

As much as i would like to say this was insightful i cannot. Having spent a better part of my life volunteering at dig sites throughout North America, I would like to draw attention to this: Archaeology, is tactile. It is physical, and 'true' A term the LDS tend to use freely. True. Yea? Saying this, although your knowledge of text seems to be worthy of note, None of said texts even begin to draw a physical or true tie to accounts in the book of Mormon.

[fudley2003]

I have heard this argument before. It's moot. I'm not saying the BoM narrative refers to  carbonized iron as we know it today.

Change "steel" to hardened bronze or copper (Hebrew translation from the KJV) and the same problems exist...No evidence.... Unless of course you are trying to tell me that Nephi's bow and the Sword of Laban are not made from metal, but some kind of hardened wood or stone????. Please also consider the Jaradite narative, Ether 7:9. It's pretty clear.

[anisuthideyakoindu]

don't forget to also dig into germanic language

what is the word steel staal Stahl stal

saying?

I guess it says: 'very hard'(like to (with)stand, to stay firm)

it doesn't even say iron yser ijzer eisen

let alone carbonized iron

so

it says

"hardened"

[fudley2003]

The big problem with the Book of Mormon and metallurgy is not just what was produced in the narative (swords, tilling blades, machines, javelins, etc) but what Jarom and Nephi say things were made from....steel.

[truthferrret]

Wrong! What Coe actually said was;

'the first americans MAY WELL HAVE TAKEN a maritime route'

And he first said it in the 4th edition of his book, published in 1987.

Nothing new there then?

Try to get your facts right.

Still, as I said; 'nothing has ever been found to mark their passing.'

[GodLovedJosephSmith]

spell maka whittle pls.

[GodLovedJosephSmith]

The Presence or Absence of the LANDBRIDGE of Siberia to ALASKA is thus NOT relevant to the problem. The first American settlers must have used MARITIME routes.

Michael Coe, "The Maya" volume 5 & 6 1999

[truthferrret]

Following on from the Celts, we had the Romans. They left massive evidence in the form of tools, weapons, buildings, roads(WITH wheel ruts) etc.. Then came the Saxon tribes who migrated to England from northern Europe. Their progress from the east across the country has been charted using Dna techniques.

The same 1000yrs covers the civilisation of the BOM peoples in the Americas.

Nothing has ever been found to mark their passing.

I find that somewhat curious!