So What If Jesus Did Not Exist?

Another video disputing the existence of the biblical Jesus.



Sources:
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1. Evidence: Socrates v Jesus - http://www.dougshaver.com/christ/socrates/socrates.html
2. Confucius and the Scholars - http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/99apr/9904confucius.htm

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[TaylorX04]

@Samson4G The Shroud of Turin is a joke. Even if DNA could prove the shroud contained the body of a first century man in Judea, that wouldn't mean the man was Jesus. It's not like we have Jesus' DNA on file and can look it up to compare. Even the gospels claim that he was crucified alongside two other men, so by sheer chances, there's still a lot of possibilities for the shroud being someone other than Jesus. Fatima was a case of mass delusion. Nothing that special.

[TaylorX04]

@Samson4G That's funny that there's incorrect Philosophy in it, because there's not really any Philosophy at all. I discuss a philosopher or two, but it's well known that some people think Socrates didn't exist, for example. So what's this incorrect Philosophy? Also, comparing Socrates and Confucius to Christopher Columbus, the Mayans, and the Egyptians - whom we all have reliable evidence for - is nonsense. Your misspelling of ignorance is very appropriate.

[ponchred]

I reckon it's all tall tales. None of the accounts are from the moment. Philo was the top political and religious reporter of the region during the time Jesus was alive, and he doesn't mention him once. Not once. Also, Mithra being born of rocks is no more nonsensical than a virgin birth. Neither happened. It's all a tale.

[Star7Nerd]

the vid is acting funky

[shredmaster100]

looked him up and it says he died 62ad and he was younger than jesus so he must have been influenced by jesus who was first influenced by john the baptist but in the end as i said before its going to take years to get enough evidence if its not been destroyed to prove jesus existence and it doesnt help that the great fire in rome took place after he died because a lot of communications from judea to rome would have been lost i think

[TaylorX04]

@shredmaster100 Yes, he was called James the Just, and he was part of a fanatical group, though I don't ever remember hearing them called the "god saves" group. I've heard them referred to as Zealots, sicarii, etc., though it's debatable exactly what group James belonged to. He was, however, an anti-Roman nationalist and extreme fundamentalist in his religious views.

[shredmaster100]

sorry if i get anything im about to say wrong but was his brother known as james the just and he was part of a fanatical group called the god saves group so if thats true i wonder where jesus got his ideas from and he was stoned think im just going on what ive read so if its right then it does answer a lot of questions

[TaylorX04]

@shredmaster100 There's better evidence in the evidence for James, I'd say. If his brother existed and was identified as his brother, it makes sense Jesus existed too. But the picture we get of James is very different than what we get for either James or Jesus in the gospels.

[shredmaster100]

yeah my bad just looked it up but i found out why tacitus got his title wrong was because the title prefect was changed to procurator after 44ad and the stones a tribute to tiberious not pilate as i said wrongly but there are other historical sources on jesus but tacitus is the earliest writing nearly 80 years later so facts could be mistaken 80 years is a long time let alone 2000 years i think its gonna take years but i think there must be better evidence for jesus somewhere

[winterstellar]

So what if he did exist..(I'm pretty sure he didn't) But even if he did he'd be a member of the same species of mammal as us, i.e homo sapiens, and he'd follow the same laws of physics as everybody and everything else in the universe, thus not performing any "miracles" or "resurrections":)

[TaylorX04]

@shredmaster100 Are you talking about the Pilate Stone? That actually calls him prefect, not procurator.

[shredmaster100]

yeah they did write a long time after but have you seen the recent evidence that was found relating to pontius pilate its a tribute to him carved in stone from his time which refers to him as a procurator look it up i think its on youtube so that proves that his title was wrongly used a lot and i think jesus must have been based on a real man because why start a sect when they were already jews they wouldnt have given up thier jewish faith for no reason