DVD Version P2 Group Supremacy

(This is not my video. It was taken from ST0PandL00K)

The True Debate of Our Time

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An animated series exploring the substance behind the political terminology used in contemporary debates.

The research of Mr. Edward G Griffin reveals how all viewpoints can be stripped down to 2 basic positions.

Discover how the different approaches of Collectivism and Individualism impact on all aspects of our lives, from human rights, governmental authority and the use of force.

# INTRO
# P1. The Nature and Origin of Human Rights
# P2. Group Supremacy
# P3. Coercion vs Freedom
# P4. Equality and Inequality under the Law
# P5. Proper Role ofGovernment

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[d0nj03]

OMG, look at these butchered comments. Half the discussion is missing. :rolleyes:

Are you such a pathetic intellectual coward that you can't let anyone know everything that has been said against your "arguments" and perhaps where you might have been proven wrong? Sheesh.

[PeacefulKancer]

Are you lost, confused, or just blind?

Butchered comments? What butchered comments?

[d0nj03]

Don't give me that, you spineless twit. This video had a number of comments from me and replies from you _before_ the discussion with MarxistStudant. Now they're all gone (yesterday I could still see one of mine here, now you've deleted that one too).

10 comments total? Yeah, right.

[PeacefulKancer]

Hey nimwit, maybe you should check WHICH video you are on before you start spouting bullshit? Mkay?

You were talking on another part then jumped over here to this part and started saying that I deleted comments. THIS IS PART 2. OK? Your first comment on part 2 was telling me that I moderated you because you are too stupid to look at which video you were commenting.

Get it straight.

[MarxistStudant]

Fine. following your definitions, I'd like something better than a democracy and a republic.

I'd want a society in witch the people don't need government and live without it collectivelly, no property, one is rewarded by his recognition as a compassive human being, and as a model of individual, and isn't rewarded with money.

I want a society that actually doesn't need it. As means to get there I'd like a democracy, following the exemple of the commune de Paris.

[PeacefulKancer]

Definition, Democracy: government by the people; the majority of people rule

Definition, Republic: government supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them; all people/groups are represented in government.

[MarxistStudant]

About the definitions, basically shouldn't we speak with the same definitions, we don't speak the same language. That's why it is necessary to define, for we wouldn't understant each other elseway.

So I'd ask you to present you defintion of republic, because the original one (thing that belongs to all) don't mach your individualism.

[MarxistStudant]

What it proves? It proves that Marx (collectivist) is against half what you said collectivists are. The truth is you just can't devide all ideologies in "Good vs Evil".

The marxism is far more democratic (government of the poor and free) and would bring a true republic(thing of all).

The real problem was not to follow it correctely. I never sopported the "communist" tyrans for they aren't communist for real, for Marx, they are just liers and tyrans.

[PeacefulKancer]

OK, so what does all this prove? I don't agree with unnessisary torture and/or assasinations either, and I am far from a communist. Everyone is similar. Um, no... Find me someone that is just like you. Find someone that is just like me.

OK, so etimologic and aristoteles... What about it/them? I don't want a democracy (mob rule), I want a Republic. They are two TOTALLY different things here. You do know that right?

[MarxistStudant]

Marx said that tortures, and assassinations canot be justified in any society that calls people similars. Communism (Marx) calls everyone similar, so if they are to follow Marx, they can't act as tyrans.

Ethimologic means the origin of the word. (wheter it comes form greek, latin)

Aristoteles was a great philosofer of ancient grece.