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"Bouncy" Zen vs. "Paint-by-Numbers" Vipassana ~ Shinzen Young

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Uploaded by on Nov 26, 2009

Shinzen describes the different styles of Zen and Vipassana - and how it effects the qualities of 'enlightenment' that come as a result.

This is part of an interview Shinzen Young did with Stephanie Nash in August 2009. http://www.basicmindfulness.org/

The purpose of this interview was to 'get the scoop' on Shinzen - the man behind the techniques. See other segments being posted over next few weeks for some good stories.

(Editing graciously contributed by Bruce Malm.)

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  • 2 of 2. I am not certain yet, but I suspect there is an experience beyond even this, where the Divine Indwelling Lord reveals His ravishing love and beauty from/as the very center of your being. Maybe I'm wrong. love to all, Daniel

  • 1 of 2. The satipatthana vipassana practice as I have known it, leads to nirodha (with or without mental residue) which is an absorbed state. This when repeated brings purity to the mind stream, which might or might not lead to the transparency of Being/ clear light, if the yogi's model is open enough. But the non-dual schools such as Zen/Chan/Vajrayana aim ultimately for that state where clear light merges back into ordinary experience, now transformed into self-luminous Suchness, cont.

  • Vipassana == "flat" enlightenment.

    Zen = "bouncy" enlightenment.

    Vajryana = "kaleidoscopic" enlightenment (?)

  • really really really helpful! thanks a lot.

  • this video helped clear up my confusions between the two practices, thanks a lot.

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