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WW2 Mystery: A Bridge Too Far or We Didn't Go Far Enough? P4

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Part 4 of a New Thought-Provoking Series on the Battle for Arnhem in 1944 asks the question, WHERE WERE PERCY HOBART & HIS FUNNIES when the British Army needed them to cross the Rhine river and reinforce the trapped 1st British Airborne Division? Details of this research can be found on the constantly updated web page below:

http://www.combatreform.com/sappertanks.htm

Neither Macksey or the official 79th Armoured history says much of anything about the Arnhem debacle unlike every other human on planet earth who studies WW2 in Europe history--this means they are skirting around an issue we are meeting head-on.

SO WHERE THE HELL WERE HOBART'S AMPHIBIOUS FUNNIES WHEN ALL THIS WE-CAN'T-CROSS-THE-RHINE-TO-SAVE-THE-1ST-BRITISH-AIRBORNE DRAMA WAS PLAYING OUT?

The unspoken truth 'til now is that It was not despite of the success of Hobart's "Funnies" on D-Day that British General Montgomery tried to cross several major rivers by 3D Airborne maneuver coup de mains, its was TO SPITE Percy Hobart so they could show him and others that well-equipped 2D maneuver forces with complete combining of arms was extravagant and unnecessary.

http://www.geocities.com/armorhistory/sld005.htm

We could parachute drop foot sloggers if we needed bridges. The conservative British officers wanted to win without adapting---using their much beloved linear-war, walking infantry since such simpletons during peacetime have a simplified existence of garrison lawn and building care with not much war practice other than employing hand weapons---so as to not interfere with the social life of the ranking racketeers. This "From Here to Eternity" walking infantry so-we-can-back-stab-each other racket continues today in Britain's extended family, the American Army Light infantry and their uber narcissist-incompetent marines.

The obscene criminality of the incompetent British officers has no bounds--as WW2 began they forced Hobart out--the man who created non-linear mechanized warfare--out of pure envy and spite--their country and their countrymen be damned. Hobart wanted a leadership that is immersed in the technotactics of their profession who are egalitarian with the "Tommy" Soldier enlistedman---where ALL THINK and all work, ALL get their hands dirty. The WW2 British officers like many today, want to play the French effete' work-is-dirty-for-the-underclass snob game. So Hobart had to go---even as his war theories were being employed by the enemy to kill and maim thousands of Tommies at places like Dunkirk, Crete and Tobruk. One of the sad truths of war is that even the pressures of survival in combat and as a nation-state are NOT A GUARANTEE that what's best is going to over-ride prejudice and malpractice of racketeers. The British people had to demand Winston Churchill be their leader and it was he who brought back Hobart to active-duty to save the day on D-Day. With the Germans on the run after the Normandy break-out, the British generals thought they could "pull a fast one" and not even have a PLAN B a Hobart-lead detachment of amphibious tanks to if necessary swim and fight their way across reinforce an Airborne unit if stranded on the far side of one of the rivers. This would be intolerable--for Hobart to be the hero, no way. They'd rather have Tommies and Paras die--which they did needlessly. All for general officer weak ego considerations. WW2 ended sooner by 6-8 months with us reaching Berlin before the Soviets would have saved MILLIONS of lives and prevented there being a "Berlin Wall".

The irony was to cross the Rhine belatedly in 1945, it was Hobart's Funnies that swam across to link-up with the American and competent British 6th Airborne--which brought their light tanks, too.
After the war, both Churchill and Hobart were discarded after they had unselfishly saved their countrymen. It is the reformers and the men in the arena who should be empowered not the greed and ego racketeers. Until we realize this and actively fight against racketeering, more disasters like WW2 will come our way and there's no guarantee that a champion like a Churchill or a Hobart will be among us next time to save us.

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  • A Back-Stab Too Far?

    In 1944, knowing WW2 was lost, Martin Bormann and German industrialists began moving Nazi looted wealth into corporations around the world to jump-start the 4th Reich. Operation MARKET-GARDEN's Paratroopers holding bridges across the Rhine river into the German industrial heartland threatened their escape,

  • so Illuminati member Peter Smith --the famous Grenadier Guards Major who refused to move his tanks past Nijmegen bridge to link-up with Frost's men at Arnhem bridge even when 82nd Airborne Para Infantry offered to clear any AT guns--deliberately sabotaged the mission for the Nazis.

  • He is known today as Lord Carrington who afterwards chaired the evil Bilderbergers conspiracy group--which first met in Arnhem to mock the dead with their getaway. The brave British troops were betrayed by their officers.

  • Yet another reason why Airborne units must be complete combined-arms teams with light tanks etc. to prevent political back-stabs. Fascist German/Japanese money stolen from the 62M WW2 dead still runs the world today.

    w w w . d e e p b l a c k l i e s . c o . u k / p r i n c e s _ o f _ p l u n d e r . h t m

  • so, by the time 30th met with the Poles, the war was not by any means over, which the operation was to achieve, if carried out successfully. Certainly, 30th Corps might have crossed the Rhine and reinforce Urquhart. However, again, the true objective of the battle was lost; troops from all over Germany were rushing Arnhem and my guess is that, even with 30th Corps, Fieldmarshall Model would have carried out successful defense of the bridge, or he could have simply blown it into the Rhine

  • Maybe--and I've considered the same possibilities, but the POINT IS TO FIX FORCE STRUCTURE so the next time we FIND OUT what happens by a successful maneuver instead of making excuses and speculations.

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  • armchair Generals.... it was A SINGLE LANE dirt road blocked with 30 Corps... the single largest avoidable mistake was the tankers waiting for infantry ... when they could have used the Americans... massive blunder .

    Even with 30 Corps the overall out come of an Allied victory is improbable.

  • What?A bridge to far that was only ONE!!!True we didn't go far at all

  • Please don't start this rubbish about USA won the war, the English were the first to defeat the Germans in 1939 battle of britain and the Englsh fought for 2 years before the americans finally woke up. Also at Omaha beach the us debarked too far from the beach and the first wave of assault tanks sank, thats partly why it was such a mess...but nobody likes memories of mistakes

  • In fact the issue was about making the Montgomery's plan... How the hell could Ike accept that?? It was clear since EL ALAMEIN that Montgomery wasn't a good tactical general but just good on the organisation...he let Rommel to retreat his forces instead of cutting his back and avoiding then the loose of thousands of human lifes...

    This is what happens when generals put the 'Selfishness' first...but don't worry, most of Monty's info on the net don't talk about Market Garden....shamefull...

  • you might say that Germans were already battered up, but Model, known as the Fuhrer's fireman for his exceptional ability to rally the retreating troops and turn them into a counterattack, would have probably blocked the 30th.

    Truly, amphibious tanks might have helped. However, again, it was not the issue of crossing the river that hampered the 30th Corps. It was the issue of clearing German resistance along the Hell's Highway, which proved to be quite a hard task.

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