20/20 Sick in America: Whose Body is it Anyway? (2/6)

John Stossel's Eye opening report on socialized health care. Part 2 of 6

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[publick]

Grocery insurance?that doesnt make any sense.insurance is suppose to cover accidents.not to give u more than payed for.Stossel is a bitch

[Spjungen]

Also, Michael Moore is one of the UGLIEST motherfuckers on the planet.

Just saying.

[Spjungen]

@kommisar PRECISELY

That is EXACTLY the point here, that government IS the problem, and that people need to realize that before drawing the wrong conclusions and thinking they need government; beureaucrats can't save people.

Doctors, working hard in competition against each other and communicating with their patients to try to give them the better service, do.

For the occasional emergency patient who can't pay, there's always charity.

Or he could pay off the procedure over time.

[kommisar]

@kmelfina I believe underneath it all is a deliberate, covert agenda to control people by making them dependent on government. Many of these health care lobbyists benefit from all these regulations. There's definitely a string puller. The point is though, all these problems weren't around before the government got involved in the health care system.

[kmelfina]

@kommisar Thanks. I'm still learning about how these social programs work. Now these same people who "lost" everything expect the government to take care of 'em regardless of their decisions >_<;

[kommisar]

@kmelfina Because the idea of insurance is not to take care of a problem you already have, but take care of a problem you MIGHT have. Do you think car insurance companies should cover you if you go to them AFTER you get in a wreck? It's really common sense. Unfortunately, the health care system has been viewed as working outside of market principles, which is not true, and that's why it's fucked the way it is now.

[kommisar]

@Shnimberz That's why I was wondering what happened to the rest of the piece. Part 6 ends rather abruptly, and appears to offer no closure for a news piece. However, I think the best solution would involve a gradual scaling back up government involvement in the health care system. People are dependent on welfare health care unfortunately, so it couldn't be done overnight. However, this mess is mostly to be blamed on the government, not insurance companies or doctors.

[Spjungen]

@Spjungen Why, for instance, are computers, iphones and most technology not a problem these days? Or cars...most people can buy a car, because thankfully the government still hasn't quite reached its hand into that sector. In the same way, most people would be able to afford health care if it wasn't so artificially propped up. Also he doesn't say he wishes less people would have it, he says he wishes it would be more AFFORDABLE, SO THAT more people CAN have it. Listen first.

[Spjungen]

@Shnimberz There's always a solution. There are charities, hospitals won't deny people, socialized healthcare or no socialized healthcare; they're humans too believe it or not. If they work in a hospital they probably want to help people AT LEAST A LITTLE. A hospital could take on the cost itself. Or the patient could pay off the procedure over time. In any case, liberalizing healthcare would make it AFFORDABLE; that's the key here.

[Shnimberz]

@kommisar The point I'm trying to get across is what do we do about the sick people who cannot afford treatment to their illness? Do we just let them die? It's like holding out a warm bottle of milk in front of a baby and telling him they can't have it because they can't afford it. At least with healthcare people are able to get treatment. Stossel says he wishes less people would have health care because it raises the price but offers no solution.