The Importance of Checking Alex Jones Sources (Updated)

The IW article has been edited (With no correction notification like what a real 'journalism' site would place), removing the RedOrbit article as the source of the "piece of the missle" claim, which is relegated to an unsourced 'Fox New interview'! I have the pre-edited article and will provide screengrabs to those interested!

http://www.infowars.net/articles/january2009/120109missile.htm

http://www.redorbit.com/news/general/47824/ap_enterprise_rumsfeld_kept_911_so...

JREF poster points out the falsity of InfoWars article:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4342616#post4342616

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• alex
• jones
• fraud
• manipulation
• lies
• untrue
• falsities

[Esnir]

I don't see anything wrong with that witness.

But i guess that is because i'm not the fruit cake on this thread.

Anyway, you don't trust witness testimony, and you don't trust video footage.

If i would reason like that, i wouldn't believe the wtc complex ever existed, as i cannot trust the pictures/videos showing it, nor can i trust people who have claimed seeing the complex, and i have never seen it myself..

Can you prove to me that the twin towers were in manhatten on 911?

[Esnir]

"the same way you know that 2 B767s struck the towers... "

Considering that you argue i don't have any evidence for that, i assume that you dont have any evidence for your statement either.

Then why do you say small aircrafts were flying about on 911 if you can't back that up to your own standards of evidence?

[Lintflas]

I frequently claimed? What the hell are you talking about? This was an example, I just used ONCE.

And do you really want to tell me, that this survey by the New York Times is a manipulated one? Oh please...

But maybe probunk is political junkies second YouTube-account, so maybe it's just the same person I'm talking to. ;)

And don't forget to vote me down, you sheep :)

[probunk]

The New York Times you so frequently claim is pandering to the sheple and run by the bankers? Derp derp derp, selective citing is great.

[PolitikalJunkie]

'It's one of the most monitored buildings on this planet.'

What good would security cameras do for that building? I mean, it's common sense to consider that actual boots on the ground would do a better job than security cameras protecting classified material and important people.

'no evidence'

Except for the debris marked with American Airlines paint, the FDR, eyewitnesses to a Boeing jet and bodies found inside the Pentagon, right?

Bah-bah Truther sheep, have you any facts?

[PolitikalJunkie]

I want to see the poll. You still haven't provided it to me. Why should I take anything you say seriously when you absurdly claim 'noone' denies 9/11 was done by Islamic terrorists?

[Lintflas]

Do you really think that there's no other footage? It's one of the most monitored buildings on this planet. You're an american. You should know this.

"To make a point", there's no evidence of a Boing jet crashed into the Pentagon. Do you really believe in pulverised titanium steel jet engines? Thats physically impossible. And you' re still the only sheep around. ;)

[Lintflas]

This survey was done by your New York Times and it IS statistically representative.

Maybe you don't know anything about reliable and mathematically correct surveys?

[PolitikalJunkie]

'86% of all american fellows '

First off, cite what poll you're referencing. Secondly, realize it's not "86% of all american fellows", but 86% of those who responded. Thirdly, consider the question asked and how it was framed.

Don't talk about Sheep when you're the one bah-bah-bahing.

[PolitikalJunkie]

To make a point, reinforced by the FOIA request provided by Scott Bingham, that the FBI had obtained the only pieces of footage that had captured the crash.

Is it really that hard to comprehend?

[Lintflas]

So why do you offer me those videos, when they don't show any useful footage?

There's still NO footage of a Jet crashing into the Pentagon.

Today there are more unanswered questions than ever before. The official 9/11 commission report is nothing but a bad joke of frauds. 86% of all american fellows agree with my opinion, that your fucking government has something to hide.

Just Keep on dreaming of your outside job, you naive sheep.

[PolitikalJunkie]

I never said there was a jet on those videos. I did mention that the FBI's information on the FOIA request identified those three pieces of footage as having captured the crash. Another epic fail for a dumb-as-bricks Trutherist.

[Lintflas]

There's no Jet on those videos, you stupid prick! Maybe you need some new glasses?

[PolitikalJunkie]

First off, thanks for the compliment, but in comparison to you guys I am a Rhodes Scholar (Google that if its too complicated for you).

Secondly, the videos:

/watch?v=2LJvFjsl6zk Citgo gas station footage

/watch?v=H8bPr5i-zfQ Double Tree Hotel footage

/watch?v=TAaP4Z3zls8 Pentagon security booth footage

I don't know who 'noone' is*, but if you deny Truthers doubt 9/11 was a work of Islamic terrorists you're a dumbass.

*Sarcasm, I know you meant 'no one'

[Lintflas]

Ok, show me those pentagon crash videos, mr wise guy.

And noone denies that 9/11 was caused by islamic terrorists, but this doesn't mean that it was not an false flag operation. Maybe you just don't know how these operations work?

[PolitikalJunkie]

The existence of 'false flag attacks' being proof that 9/11 was one is a logical fallacy. One could point to terror attacks such as the one against the USS Cole in 2000 as evidence that 9/11 was a work of Islamic terrorists.

[PolitikalJunkie]

Simple answers that someone not fashioning a tinfoil hat could recognize:

1: Hilariously false. In fact, totally false.

2: False. According to the FOIA request obtained by Scott Bingham, only three cameras recorded the crash. To say the FBI 'confiscated' anything is to ignore the possibility that citizens provided tapes to them.

[Lintflas]

Simple questions:

Has anybody in this world seen a plane crashed into the pentagon? No.

About 10 to 15 cameras recorded the pentagon crash. The FBI confiscated every little, tiny video.

Why don't they show us those videos? Maybe they got something to hide? Yes, they do. Otherwise there's NO reason to keep those videos away from the public!

Just take a step out of the matrix and google "false flag operations"

[joopq]

pope calls for a NWO yesterday

[joopq]

and simply saying "there is proof" or "lots of proof" or "tons of proof!" is NOT proof. i have to see this alleged proof , obviously. simply saying something IS is not proof, it is a claim. so show the proof for your claim.

[joopq]

ok if thre is evidence the plane hit the pentagon, lay it on me. i have seen none. maybe you have something i havent seen. by all means do so. here or in a pm if you need to link. do i sound biased?

im telling you now though...all i have seen is NO PROOF and things that contradict their statements. so if im missing something, do your patritoic duty and fill us in

[joopq]

well that may be true but that doesnt change the fact that jones real purpose is succeeding...

if you want to prove a plan hit the pentagon...ok, do it. can you? not even the pentagon could, what makes you think YOU can? serisouly. i will still listen if you want to try. i am not biased. i am being real

i am the guy that asked rep press to make the video. and when i looked at his shit then i didnt think it was clear cut, but i gave him credit. he quoted me in his blog. cuz im not biased...

[PolitikalJunkie]

'none of you can prove a plane hit the pentagon'

Only if you put your fingers in your ears and go 'LALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!' over and over.

'yet you defend that idea as if it were TRUTH'

Irony in F minor.

'YOU theorize that a plane hit it cuz you have no KNOWledge it did or didnt'

False. There is plenty of evidence AA 77 hit the Pentagon.

Are you the guy who ignored every piece of evidence that Bhutto referred to OBL as if he were alive? Yes, yes you were.

Get out.

[PolitikalJunkie]

This video's purpose is not to 'expose' Alex Jones, as other websites and videos do that just nicely. This video's intent is to show why checking Jones' sources is so important.

[joopq]

squabbling over a piece of the plane lol. why dont you squak over the many pieces of the plane nout found in virginia? or about the missing peices of plane at the pentagon. or the missing pice of a whole plane in the claim one hit the pentagon? none of you can prove a plane hit the pentagon, yet you defend that idea as if it were TRUTH. and call skeptics to you, consopiracy theorists. YOU theorize that a plane hit it cuz you have no KNOWledge it did or didnt. you cant prove it, YOU are the CT

[joopq]

this video does NOTHING to expose alex jones. here let me do it for you....

alex jones calls himself the godfather of the 911 truth movement. yet the man who owns his network FUNDED 911! a rich arab illuminati named adnan khashoggi. a very infamous player from the house of wahabi. he was THE middle man in iran for the 80s iran/contra scandal. not only that, if you watch him you can see what looks like a shill. here to polarize americans on 911 by screamin like a freak. this vid shows his success

[joopq]

shut your lame mouth up. lol. YOU are pulling stuff out your ass cuz you are ignorant to this. you just showed me you were. you arent even aware of what the ideas are that you want to refute. a true sign of a man who likes his own VERSION of truth instead of finding the most accurate version.

people like that i dont waste time debating, understand.

the northern colonies wanted money too! the south was getting too powe4rful DER...

free labor profit, THAT was our power so early. wheres our cut!?