Toby :: Free-Trade

Toby on free-trade

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[polusdumsiderapascet]

This is what I love about the West Wing: It prompts these kinds of discussions. And whether you agree with each other or not, and however angry you all are at each other, there's a debate about free trade between total strangers that's been started by a popular television series. It's television that makes you think.

And also Toby is hilarious when he rants. I love that, too.

[Jason Malmstadt]

Like some other conservative YTers, I can't believe I agree with Toby, either! But he does have some good moments. This and the scene in which he's telling the Congressmen why Toyota's competition is actually good for Ford are among my faves.

[deltasevenma7]

What episode was this?

[AnarchalPatriarch]

Seen Sports Night, Studio 60, and The Newsroom, but not West Wing. About 20 seconds in, I started thinking, "Man...this really sounds like Sorkin writing."

[Aprotim Sanyal]

This clip actually ends right before a very telling follow up where he "protests" to Josh about the unaccountability of the WTO and the exploitation that of poorer nations. That moment is why I love Toby so much - he's not an idealogue, he looks at every side of the issue, even when he just has to come down on a paricular side. (His conversation with Mr. Willis in the ep "Mr. Willis of Ohio" is another great example.)

[tamekapatricio]

best video fo' me today!

[PaperbackWizard]

It's more that free trade only works in free societies. You can't have a true free trade agreement with an oppressive government. That's what was behind the Cuban embargo. It wasn't just communism; it was the fact that Castro oppressed his own people, like Chavez and Ahmadinejad. You can't have free trade with dictators.

[PaperbackWizard]

You know, from the second to about the middle of the fifth season, a lot of the values espoused by The West Wing (especially Toby Ziegler) were moderate to conservative. A lot of that had to do with the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and "everyone being a Republican, whether they knew it or not"; but many forget that free trade is an extension of free market capitalism, and "liberals" used to believe in it.

Now, though, we have protectionists in office.

[hdsport82]

Always liked this scene especially the 'activist vacation' line...

[nudist1033]

I love every scene that Toby has with this policewoman. Especially when they're inside and he suggests that she shoots her gun at the protestors.

[LibertyJedi]

The elite run a rigged game and their game is not free trade. 19,000 pages of NAFTA is not free trade, it is 19,000 pages of pay off to the elites that call it free trade to divide the people: that is the first rule in ruling: divide the people. I agree world gov will be worse than current as the corruption will be un stoppable. True free trade is the answer as it destroys rigged games currently used by the elites.