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Uploaded by on Feb 22, 2007

Toby on free-trade

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  • This is what I love about the West Wing: It prompts these kinds of discussions. And whether you agree with each other or not, and however angry you all are at each other, there's a debate about free trade between total strangers that's been started by a popular television series. It's television that makes you think.

    And also Toby is hilarious when he rants. I love that, too.

  • Free trade would be an even better idea if workers and consumers had the means to form more co-operative and democratic workplaces and markets.

    The problem with the current brand of so-called "free" trade, is that monopoly and concentrated wealth now exist on a global scale. They are able to act as the unaccountable, distorting middlemen between what would be freer, more diverse, more competitive and more perfect markets without them.

    Labour and consumerism continues to be institutionalised.

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  • best video fo' me today!

  • Like some other conservative YTers, I can't believe I agree with Toby, either! But he does have some good moments. This and the scene in which he's telling the Congressmen why Toyota's competition is actually good for Ford are among my faves.

  • @epiphany55 It's more that free trade only works in free societies. You can't have a true free trade agreement with an oppressive government. That's what was behind the Cuban embargo. It wasn't just communism; it was the fact that Castro oppressed his own people, like Chavez and Ahmadinejad. You can't have free trade with dictators.

  • You know, from the second to about the middle of the fifth season, a lot of the values espoused by The West Wing (especially Toby Ziegler) were moderate to conservative. A lot of that had to do with the immediate aftermath of 9/11 and "everyone being a Republican, whether they knew it or not"; but many forget that free trade is an extension of free market capitalism, and "liberals" used to believe in it.

    Now, though, we have protectionists in office.

  • Always liked this scene especially the 'activist vacation' line...

  • I love every scene that Toby has with this policewoman. Especially when they're inside and he suggests that she shoots her gun at the protestors.

  • The elite run a rigged game and their game is not free trade. 19,000 pages of NAFTA is not free trade, it is 19,000 pages of pay off to the elites that call it free trade to divide the people: that is the first rule in ruling: divide the people. I agree world gov will be worse than current as the corruption will be un stoppable. True free trade is the answer as it destroys rigged games currently used by the elites.

  • "Free trade stops wars!" Yay Toby!

  • I can't believe I agree with Toby on something! Too bad our president doesn't... its amazing how much "progressive" labor and Lou Dobbs nativists have in common on this issue.

  • As I read it, the Stolper and Samuelson says the wage of the scarce factor of production will decline whereas that of the abundant factor will increase. Basically, it predicts that free trade causes the wages of unskilled labor to go down in developed nations and up in developing nations, and vice versa for more advanced nations.

    In other words, trade restrictions only help some workers by hurting others (while hurting all the consumers).

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