Plantinga - Dennett 3

Alvin Plantinga (Notre Dame) delivers a paper at the 2009 Central Division of the American Philosophical Association in Chicago, entitled "Religion and Science: Where the Real Conflict Lies." Daniel Dennett (Tufts) comments.

No, this is not my recording, but yes, I was at this talk (I actually ask the very first question in the Q&A (I didn't express myself well, but Plantinga seemed to get the jist). I tried to record it, but my camera wasn't working. So I found this recording online, and thought the YouTube community might enjoy.

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Education

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• Alvin
• Plantinga
• Daniel
• Dennett
• theism
• atheism
• naturalism
• evolution
• epistemology
• religion
• science

[kommissarw]

Im stunned that A. Plantinga refers to Michael Behe at all let alone multiple times. Behe has thoroughly disscredited himself with childish unwarranted conclusions eg comparing the flagellum to an "outboard motor". If one were to do so, the efficiency of the outboard motor over the flagellum is plain to see. Its even more ridiculous when compared with Helecopter/Chopper with Contra Rotating Rotors.

Honestly that argument is worse than the Argument from the Banana by Ray Comfort.

[SisyphusRedeemed]

It may be worse than the Banana argument, but at least it doesn't have the homoerotic overtones.

[CrateofStolenDirt]

@kommissarw Plantinga is proof positive that -granted your ambition is circumscribed to becoming the most formidable representative of certain boneheaded outlying views- academic philosophy is not a wit more intellectually demanding than brokering real estate.

[oliviernovel]

This is so dumb... he goes from Z to A knowing perfectly well that you're supposed to go the other way around... "There is a being almighty, all knowing, blah perfect in any sense blah blah blah" therefore "He can do whatever he wants, put dinosaur bones in the ground, design by any way he wants, directly as in the bible or guiding evolution" "Dude that makes no sense, why would he/she do that?" "HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS, AND... BECAUSE HE IS PERFECTLY GOOD YOU CAN'T QUESTION HIM" I say BS

[OrderoftheWhiteHand]

to be such a good philosopher, Alvin keeps citing arguments that have been completely discredited. Behe and the eye argument..... -face palm-

[cero86]

what's the purpose of a river or a mountain, or a tiger? to say that nature has a purpose is nothing but nonsense

[veritaslogos]

is waste and suffering evil?

[robotaholic]

the waste and suffering involved in evolution is evidence for the lack of a benevolent creator

Plantinga: yes this is a problem but we always have had that problem, all science did is show us it's been going on longer than we thought...

:Plantinga FAIL