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Lest we be accused of misrepresenting their views, actual Libertarians have been kicking around this take on Somalia with a straight face for some time now. No shit: http://mises.org/story/2066

A more nuanced completely insane view is that Somalia has been awesome-ized by Anarchism, not Libertarianism. http://www.reason.com/blog/show/117519.html.
Fair 'nuff, but as far as we can tell the difference between a Libertarian and an Anarchist usually seems to be a bachelor's degree.

So, it's fun to see folks like Glenn Beck eagerly veering into freaky yee-hah populist Libertarian zone. Go for it, guys. That's rebuilding the ol' brand.

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Andy Cobb
Josh Funk
Nyima Funk
Marc Evan Jackson
Mark Kienlen
David Pompeii
Marc Warzecha

Written and Directed by: Andy Cobb
Produced by: Mark Kienlen and Andy Cobb
Narrator: Marc Evan Jackson
Gal: Nyima Funk
Fellah: Andy Cobb

A couple notes on music:

1. The music used in this video isn't Somali, or even close to it. It was, however, free to use. Gotta like that.

2. It's easy to hate on Ted Nugent for participating in Fox News Tea Party promotions, but in all sincerity: "Wango Tango" is a badass song, and it's hard to argue with his solo on "Stranglehold." Ted, we'll still gladly pay to see you at whatever State Fair you're playing next.

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  • @Gormanmod let me try to explain it this way; american libertarianism is a right wing version of what most other countries call libertarianism (anarchism). it is a philosophy that believes in neo-liberal capitalism, no government, and property rights, which leave potential for hierarchy and corporate tyranny. anarchism is similar but non capitalistic, non-aggressive free trade (unlike neo-liberal) and socialistic with no hierarchical structure.

  • Except there's too many non-white people in Somalia for Libertarians to like it there.

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  • @getxrowdy Imperialism has nothing directly to do with capitalism, the funding for the empire and wars comes over taxation and fiat currency, both of which aren't libertarian principles. Genuine capitalism doesn't need war and destruction to create wealth, that concept is Keynsianism, and it is truly disgusting. The market doesn't run on consumption, it runs on production. Once that was clear to me it was obvious that the free market is the right way. Maybe it helps you too.

  • @getxrowdy Anarchy is no government. That is what it means.

  • @taubstumm libertarians still want a system that benefits an elite few. many people share the delusion that they will someday be a part of this elite through hard work. this is simply not the case, those who control the capital in this world want to keep it that way. they are modern day royalty and they do all they can to convince the working class that we have the means to be like them. we agree on many points but libs fail to see the true nature of the threats to a free society.

  • @taubstumm bartering directly and equally trades goods and services. so-called "free trade" not only isn't an equal exchange, but it creates a system for dividing labor forces and allows the exchange of monetary products on a massive scale. the problem with countries spending to much has very little to do with "welfare" and more to do with imperialism. Capitalism fails constantly and things like a fiat currency, war, and "free trade" are bandaids used to further a broke system.

  • @getxrowdy I don't see the difference between bartering and free trade. I think your gripe might not be with the market but with the fiat money system. That is why many libertarians want a gold standard, it forces countries to not spend too much (welfare/warfare state) and also protects the little guy by keeping inflation at almost nothing. That way you can actually save by just stacking gold coins, instead of being forced to do risky investments to break even on inflation.

  • @taubstumm also, bartering works pretty damn well and it puts emphasis on the labor and materials used to produce a product unlike free trade which deviates from labor and places value on something due to "market value". the current economic crisis is derived from this system. every day, traders with "capital" from the wealthy are creating artificial value for commodities and artificial financial products in order to amass wealth at the detriment of working individuals.

  • @taubstumm what's stopping you? hmm a classist hierarchy that prevents outright land ownership for the majority of working people for one. capitalism is not natural, it is creating monetary and material wealth from nothing. labor is natural. labor is the backbone of all civilization. so why would you base an economic system on mathematically manufactured wealth instead of labor? the vast majority of the world is in debt, they do not "own" their land or goods or labor. how is this a good thing?

  • @getxrowdy Well, even in todays system there isn't much stopping you from buying land and becoming self sufficient and form a self sufficient community if you so much desire. More likely than not the state will be a pain in your butt though with regulations what you can do on your property.

    I just think you can't get the capitalistic part out of anarchy, it is natural, and you'd either have everyone to agree to be "nonprofit" or have a gov. enforce it.

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