Christopher Hitchens vs Laura Ingraham, Doug Wilson [2 of 4]

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[josephrl82]

The Big Bang DOES NOT say that the universe was created out of nothing. It just explains an expansion from a singularity. We don't know where the matter contained in the singularity came from. Maybe it was always there, maybe there was a universe before that came together due to gravity. WE DONT KNOW!!! But that is still no reason to say god had to be the beginning!

[Lewbag75]

It annoys the hell out of me when people debate things like cosmology on air. It highlights something Christpher said (I think in part 1), that the more you learn, the more you realise how ignorant you are. I'm a physics undergrad and if someone asked me about cosmology I'd have to say, honestly, I didn't know enough to talk about it.

By steering the debate in that direction, Laura shows how ignorant she really is.

[SumpNuther]

Christianity is good because it's true. WOW! That is a powerful argument! NOT!

[SumpNuther]

Doug, making the tired, old, worthless argument: 'With the the Triune deity in place, we have a start, and it all makes sense.' But, of course, with that assertion, you have to explain why reality is what it is, and it implodes upon itself.

[code933k]

The US lost its place as the 1st world superpower and you ask why after listening to this spectacle of idiocy? Even Christopher scored low here.

[TheScydeFX]

I wish Brian Cox debated with people like this. Or just went to America sometimes to Discuss the Big Bang Theory on Fox "News" with cretins like Laura or Bill O'Reilly. It would really destroy any stupid arguments they come up with. Although once these daft defences of religeon are dismantled and refuted and shown up, people like this do tend to stick their fingers in their ears and scream "GodDidItGodDidItGodDidIt!!!"

[alexanderhulse]

i can imagine Laura fied in the position of the picture and Hitchens is just grining at her

[RB1US]

Is there any more vapid sellout than L. Ingraham? Her philosophy is obvious: say what ever stirs up the most controversy and reap the monetary benefits. Shameful.

[Thoughtland]

@CrimsonFlameRTR Yeah the big bang may have arisen from there being a pure, empty vaccum at some point. It wouldn't surprise me if a pure vacuum was a swirly spinny thing and it's residual force makes everything fly apart at the same speed.

[CrimsonFlameRTR]

@josephrl82 In the world of quantum mechanics, nothing is no longer nothing. Most of the energy we see in the subatomic comes from the empty space! Krauss does a very good lecture on this. It's on YouTube called "A Universe from Nothing"

watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

[pnowicki]

@nicksum29

Don't get me wrong, I love Christopher Chitchens, but in this case he is not effectively debating this dumb woman. Stephen Hawkin said something along the lines that "asking what was there before the big bang is like asking where will you fall when you fall off the edge of the earth." Its a dumb question. As you get closer to a black hole (which is extremely dense) time slows down to a stop. At the begining of the big bang the universe was infinitely dense therefore time was stopped.

[nicksum29]

@pnowicki "retarded" is an offensive word, not to mention an infantile one. And Hitchens is the furthest thing from a moron that I can think of. Your hypothesis of "time" not existing is itself absurd. For something not to exist, it has to have had an existence to compare it with: It (object one being compared) does not exist (object 2, the comparison). So if object one does not exist, then object 2 certainly does. So time did exist, it had just not been manoeuvred.