John Coleman slams global warming (2 of 4)

The founder of The Weather Channel speaks out against global warming. See coverage of the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change in The New American magazine:
http://thenewamerican.com/node/7933
http://thenewamerican.com/node/7523

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[ezeeskank]

I trust this guy over Al Gore any day of the week.

[scwtrials]

There it is folks, THE SUN is the SOURCE of ALL our heat, light, and life giving radiation in many forms. The SUN is the 1 thing the Global Warming crowd NEVER talks about cause it totally KILLS their PHONEY BOLONIE story. THERMAL DYNAMICS is the driving force that TOTALLY controls our weather. Without it, no heat to warm the surface, no evaporation, no photosynthesis for plants, etc, etc. CO2 is a necessary inert gas we need to support all life on earth, not the MAN MADE POISON they claim !

[yaahme]

AGW is a SCAM!

[demoskunk]

@MayonR Well, I can't take credit for the sale of indulgences parallel. That goes to Penn and Teller :)

And I think Catholics aren't the only Christians who draw severely extended inferences of Bible teachings.

As far as the Theory of Evolution goes, there's TONS of evidence to support it. It is the basis for modern biology and genetics. In other words, it works.

However, scientists have not figured out how much we contribute to climate change. No one knows that, yet.

[MayonR]

@demoskunk [[the Bible is a collection of older myths]] in Yale a course actually debunks the claims that the Bible was derived of myths and debunks the claim it originated out of polytheistic religions. It is based on Yehezekl Kaufman's 30 year monumental study. It doesn't derive of myths mainly in that it does not fit a myth outline such as God having a birth,growth,and their is no hierarchy of gods. Also it was presented as a revelation of God, not as a myth that describes the seasons etc.

[MayonR]

@demoskunk As for your view about GW, I completely agree, except I compare it to evo claims, as their is a consensus that is the driving force in the claims of it's validity. but i will say you made a great point with the catholic Church as the selling of indulgences is not taught in the Bible. Well Catholics do draw severely extended inferences of Bible teachings.

[MayonR]

@demoskunk You state that the Bible has many accuracies . In the same stroke, you say the supernatural parts are conceptual. The Bible continually stands up to the many disciplines that scrutinize it. The only stumbling block seems to be the supernatural parts. An objective analysis would be to view the supernatural parts objectively also, not with naturalistic presuppositions. Fact is their are not plausible explanations for many of these events that stand up to the supernatural explanations.

[MayonR]

@demoskunk The tectonic event you describe is similar to the global hydraulic event describe by the those who postulate creation. God is light has many senses. He radiates light, he is light as in Wisdom to the world. To say that is all He is as you stated by saying he is photons is not what anyone would think of a maximally excellent being, so this part of the question answers itself.

[demoskunk]

Back on point, carbon credits and carbon taxes are bullshit. It's just the government's way of guilting us into giving them more money. They won't change or cool the Earth's climate one degree. What a crock.

Penn and Teller made a great analogy of religion and global warming, pointing out that carbon credits are the same as the sales of indulgences in the Medieval Catholic Church: "you wanna keep sinning, but lose the guilt? Well, just pay us some money and it will fix everything..." BULLSHIT!

[demoskunk]

@MayonR No, what I meant about plate tectonics is they explain how ancient marine fossils are on mountain tops: NOT due to a worldwide flood, but due to the fact that shifting plates cause mountains to rise. They were originally part of the sea bed, get it?

youtube: How Archaeology in 1931 "Proved" Noah's Flood is a Myth.

This Bible story, and many others, are just myths.

And God is light...like he's photons?? So he's not even powerful enough to penetrate a thick piece of paper? Not impressive.

[MayonR]

@demoskunk Belief of Creation we can see the text says God is light, . So in the context of the Bible this is not an explicit contradiction at all but is reconciled. But to say how the changes supposed by the flood are caused billions of years ago is a metaphysical statement. That's why i spend more time presenting evidence that is empirical or observer. As you said about the plate tectonics the flood also states a global hydraulic event.

[demoskunk]

@MayonR Yes, the Bible contains historical records of many ancient peoples and places. More discoveries that corroborate Biblical texts will be made by archaeologists. However, the existence of ancient ruins in Palestine, Israel, etc, does not point to supernatural forces at work any more than the existence of the Parthenon or the great pyramids.

People will try to connect scientific discoveries to the Bible, whatever. As long as we don't see the Bible as a science textbook, we'll be ok.