Causes of the Civil War Part 2

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[pucksterz12]

Understandably pissed. If I were black and learned about slavery I would probably have a chip on my shoulder and be pissed at "whitey" too. The South claimed slavery was God's choosing which is the sickest thing of all. There is no justificatioon for the way those poor people were treated back then.

[LongHairedLoser]

This video provides and in depth look at the causes of the civil war, not the war itself or Lincoln.

Regarding tariffs, very few southern politicians talked about it during the foundation of the CSA. They were more concerned with slavery and its preservation.

[MasterWooten]

I love the "Christian" argument made by southerners and slavery supporters, of course people with the least educaton everywhere. Looking at the bible yes God defends slavery but that slavery is NOT a race based chattel type slavery but a debtors prison if ou will. Look at the enslavement of the Jews by the Egyptians. That was a race based precursor to new world racial slavery. God was clearly against that kind of slavery as detailed in the book of Exodus!

[galoon]

@guitargold77 We're not dealing in "dribble" as you put it--not usually, anyway! We're providing relevant facts to help clarify the situation; to show the environment and circumstances in which these people were operating. Historians don't all see the world in the same way, of course, which is why we engage in debates with one another, just like the people of the Civil War era.

[galoon]

@guitargold77 That's a good point. The Civil War was a terrible endgame that resulted from the policies and actions of a lot of short-sighted characters on both sides. There was quite a bit of ignorance and arrogance in this case--current events show that we probably haven't learned much!

[guitargold77]

It never ceases to amaze me how so called historians get caught up in dribble that in retrospect is useless when you take history for its most basic defintion, to learn from our mistakes. The bloated Charles E Winchesters out their will recite facts because they know most will bow before their dribble, all in a effort to hide what is most prevalant. Humans were owned. Idicocy & arrogancy ruled for centuries. Lincoln would not have sent yhem back to Africa since they were now obviously Americans

[galoon]

@moctezuma112 Lincoln made few outright violations of the Constitution, which grants the power to suspend habeas corpus, etc. in situations of rebellion when the public safety requires it. This was the case when a secessionist mob in Baltimore attacked US troops on their way to Washington. Congress upheld the Constitutionality of nearly everything Lincoln did. He seldom did anything without letting Congress review it, even if it was after the fact, a necessity in a special situation like this.

[galoon]

@moctezuma112 The government didn't have the Constitutional authority to buy the slaves and free them--and Southerners were hotly opposed to this concept anyway.

[wolfpax22]

@david1513 Ok first off, while all black slaves originally came from Africa as I said, those in the south after the 1805 ban on the Atlantic slave trade were mostly "homegrown" from those already here. Some people even had businesses 'breeding' them. Those smuggled in illegally probably came from the Caribbean where the Atlantic slave trade was still legal. That's probably why it was passed down to you that Spanish ships sold slaves. And once again, buying slaves was business, not charity.

[wolfpax22]

@david1513 Ok first, no I'm not black. And yes, slaves were expensive, but the people who owned large amounts of slaves typically were planters who grew large amounts of cash crops whose businesses easily paid for them over the years. Owning slaves was not a charity, it was business. And among small slaveowners who only used them as servants or house help, a slave was more of an expensive luxury item or status symbol. Sort of like a new car.