@Godisfinger (Cont) Tyson had Speed Power And great agressive defense, that's 2 things foreman did not have on his side, Frazier wasnt as quick nor elusive enough for the way he fought which is why Foreman was able to pick him apart so easily for how slow foreman is, Tyson on the other hand perfected his defense and used angles to catch opponents, Ali said on the Arsenial Hall show, that if Tyson could catch him, its lights out. Do you think someone like Tyson couldnt catch Ali??
@Godisfinger LOL Foreman pressured Ali that entire fight, aswell as Frazier in his with Ali, and dont forget Frazier does have a win over Ali and it was the first time they fought, proving that Ali needed 2 fights to figure out a style like Fraziers in which once again Tyson did twice as good, now let me ask you something, You pick Foreman, Doesnt have the best defense, power is his only great asset, of COURSE thats gonna work against him against a stamina fighter.
@BiggieSmalls11111 Like I said before. Iron Mike was the man from 86-89. But after that his career was a disaster (compared to his earlier years). He didn't stand a chance against those who defeated him. People complain about how he would've beaten for example Lennox Lewis in his prime, but Lewis wasn't near his prime time when they faced each other. Ali however came back at the age of 32 & played the fearsome & ambitious 24 year old George Foreman like he was a bag.
@BiggieSmalls11111 Muhammad Ali defeated every single boxer there was during his era, and that time is not called Boxing's Golden Era for nothing. He was never K.O'd & gained the title Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World three times. Ali's unique style is something that no one has been able to adapt & probably never will. Mike however, fights with a very common(if not the most common) style & there were fighters before him whom, in their prime, should be regarded as better.
@BiggieSmalls11111 Foreman fought with the same style as Frazier. How did the fight between them end? And how did the fight between Ali & Foreman go? Besides, Ali defeated Frazier twice afterwards. Under the circumstances Ali fought Frazier the first time it is no surprise he had a hard time, but he rose up again & became even better than he was before. Mike was really good. Then he got his ass kicked & couldn't intimidate anyone. After that fight the Mike Tyson form 86-89 was never seen again.
@Godisfinger And i agree with @LedWhisky69 aswell, you are speaking nonsense, first of all, we seen joe frazier, a much slower and argueably weaker in strength fighter than tyson knock ali down and even go on to win that fight, for you to assume someone faster, stronger and more elusive than Frazier couldnt beat Ali shows your knowledge in it, styles make fights right?? Tyson and frazier use the same type of style in which its no arguement tyson was better at it than frazier was.
That is one brutal knockout Douglas scored. That Mike even managed to move after that can of whoopass is incredible. One of the most nerve breaking fights in the history of boxing.
@Godisfinger I don't agree with hardly a damn thing you've said here. This is garbage talk. It wasn't the loss to Douglas that sent Tyson's career spiraling, it was the loss of his trainer and the whole Don King/Robbin Given fiasco. Even still, before going to prison, when Mike trained and was in shape, he was still knocking people out cold and gave Ruddock a beating for two fights. Holyfield couldn't TOUCH that Mike Tyson. Ali beaten the SHIT out of Mike? Haha! That's funny.
@LedWhisky69 I highly doubt that. Tyson was practically undefeatable from 1986 to 1989. But once he lost this fight, his career went downhill fast. Tyson wouldn't be able to frighten Holyfield once "Iron Mike" had been defeated for the first time. A boxer who would've fought like Mike did form 1990-2005 would never have been considered one of the greatest. Doesn't matter anyhow, Ali would've beaten the shit out of Mike. No matter which one he faced.
@Godisfinger (Cont) Tyson had Speed Power And great agressive defense, that's 2 things foreman did not have on his side, Frazier wasnt as quick nor elusive enough for the way he fought which is why Foreman was able to pick him apart so easily for how slow foreman is, Tyson on the other hand perfected his defense and used angles to catch opponents, Ali said on the Arsenial Hall show, that if Tyson could catch him, its lights out. Do you think someone like Tyson couldnt catch Ali??
BiggieSmalls11111 1 day ago
@Godisfinger LOL Foreman pressured Ali that entire fight, aswell as Frazier in his with Ali, and dont forget Frazier does have a win over Ali and it was the first time they fought, proving that Ali needed 2 fights to figure out a style like Fraziers in which once again Tyson did twice as good, now let me ask you something, You pick Foreman, Doesnt have the best defense, power is his only great asset, of COURSE thats gonna work against him against a stamina fighter.
BiggieSmalls11111 1 day ago
@BiggieSmalls11111 Like I said before. Iron Mike was the man from 86-89. But after that his career was a disaster (compared to his earlier years). He didn't stand a chance against those who defeated him. People complain about how he would've beaten for example Lennox Lewis in his prime, but Lewis wasn't near his prime time when they faced each other. Ali however came back at the age of 32 & played the fearsome & ambitious 24 year old George Foreman like he was a bag.
Godisfinger 1 day ago
@BiggieSmalls11111 Muhammad Ali defeated every single boxer there was during his era, and that time is not called Boxing's Golden Era for nothing. He was never K.O'd & gained the title Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the World three times. Ali's unique style is something that no one has been able to adapt & probably never will. Mike however, fights with a very common(if not the most common) style & there were fighters before him whom, in their prime, should be regarded as better.
Godisfinger 1 day ago
@BiggieSmalls11111 Foreman fought with the same style as Frazier. How did the fight between them end? And how did the fight between Ali & Foreman go? Besides, Ali defeated Frazier twice afterwards. Under the circumstances Ali fought Frazier the first time it is no surprise he had a hard time, but he rose up again & became even better than he was before. Mike was really good. Then he got his ass kicked & couldn't intimidate anyone. After that fight the Mike Tyson form 86-89 was never seen again.
Godisfinger 1 day ago
@Godisfinger And i agree with @LedWhisky69 aswell, you are speaking nonsense, first of all, we seen joe frazier, a much slower and argueably weaker in strength fighter than tyson knock ali down and even go on to win that fight, for you to assume someone faster, stronger and more elusive than Frazier couldnt beat Ali shows your knowledge in it, styles make fights right?? Tyson and frazier use the same type of style in which its no arguement tyson was better at it than frazier was.
BiggieSmalls11111 1 day ago
That is one brutal knockout Douglas scored. That Mike even managed to move after that can of whoopass is incredible. One of the most nerve breaking fights in the history of boxing.
Godisfinger 1 day ago
@Godisfinger I don't agree with hardly a damn thing you've said here. This is garbage talk. It wasn't the loss to Douglas that sent Tyson's career spiraling, it was the loss of his trainer and the whole Don King/Robbin Given fiasco. Even still, before going to prison, when Mike trained and was in shape, he was still knocking people out cold and gave Ruddock a beating for two fights. Holyfield couldn't TOUCH that Mike Tyson. Ali beaten the SHIT out of Mike? Haha! That's funny.
LedWhisky69 1 day ago
@LedWhisky69 I highly doubt that. Tyson was practically undefeatable from 1986 to 1989. But once he lost this fight, his career went downhill fast. Tyson wouldn't be able to frighten Holyfield once "Iron Mike" had been defeated for the first time. A boxer who would've fought like Mike did form 1990-2005 would never have been considered one of the greatest. Doesn't matter anyhow, Ali would've beaten the shit out of Mike. No matter which one he faced.
Godisfinger 1 day ago
That was a bullshit count cause even if Buster did get up Mike would have finished him. He got his legs back in the corner
LALMCGatorsfan 2 days ago