Blow of aikido 1993

This biow is the esoteric art of Takeda-ryu-budo. He is aikido master. His school is nihonden-mugen-ryu.　日本伝無限流合気道小川和真正宗師が武田流秘の打ちを追求して得た手刀によるブロック 斬り。

Category:

Sports

Tags:

• AIKIDO
• MUGEN-RYU
• 合気道
• 無限流
• 武道
• ブロック斬り
• ブロック割り
• 小川和真正
• 手刀の威力
• Takeda-Ryu
• 武田流合気之術
• 気楽流
• 秘の打ち

[Deke101]

Just because someone is wearing a hakama (large pleated pants) does not mean they are practicing Aikido. There is no breaking exercise in Aikido.

[therealtang]

@Deke101

I agree. he may be an aikido master, I don't know, but this was not aikido.

[Deke101]

@kayoukyokuZulog1 All I can say is, I have been practicing Aikido since 1992. I have been teaching since 1996. I have been to dozens of seminars, gatherings, and countless demos. I have never seen any shihan demonstrate breaking excercises in Aikido. I am sure there are Aikido practitioners that do other arts where breaking is practiced.

[kayoukyokuZulog1]

@Deke101 Hang on, mate! Although yes, the "normative" is there's no breaking exercise in aikido, however, if you talk about developing your aiki, based on interpretations from alot of shihans and/or veteran practitioners, it all begins from developing ki. And the basic level of aiki is ateru (explosive/blowing power), and that level of ki allows us to breaking things, like we seen in karate. And, one of the manifestation of ateru is throughout kiai...

[HomunculusProject]

@KurtCobain198666 I don't know if you have ever practiced Aikiken or Aikijo (which mainly bases on the Yari). Also I wonder if you ever actually applied a technique on someone who intends to kill you.

And I wonder, if you have ever practiced any Budo (Ryukyu Budo doesn't count) other than Aikido. Okkyo, Sankyo etc. are very plain techniques. You will find them in most Ryuha. The difference is simply the Aiki approach and the intent.

[HomunculusProject]

@KurtCobain198666 Aikibudo is no different art. It was simply not called Aikido. I don't get it. First you say, all styles are the same. Then you say, the pre-war aikido (which was then called aiki budo) is not aikido. And you completely IGNORE, that I consistently show you MA that are also called Aikido, but are not in Ueshibas line.

Also you seem to have a very false view on what makes Aikido Aikido. Also what Japanese mean with words like "Do".

[KurtCobain198666]

@HomunculusProject In fact the only major difference in the Aikido branches is that Tomiki (Shodokan) allows competition. All aikido teaches the same princibles, the same basic techniques (ikkyo, nikkyo etc) although some may have different varitations. But most non aikidoka would be able to say they're looking at aikido, but not which branch, why? Because they look almost identical. Also, you named one art (aikido) different branches. For example karate has shotokan, wado ryu etc, still karate!

[KurtCobain198666]

@HomunculusProject Aiki Budo is not Aikido, so the fact that Ueshiba used a dangerous technique in Aiki Budo means nothing. 'Bu' means war, 'Do' means way. Aikido is an evolved state from Aiki Budo because it was devised when Ueshiba sought a way to bring about harmony. The arts you named were related. All those arts (tomiki, yoshinkan etc) seek to neutralise the attack by joint manipulation and centre control. All agree that killing is the lowest level of the martial artist

[HomunculusProject]

@KurtCobain198666 I just named three fairly unrelated arts called "Aikido".

The only real difference between Aikido and other Aiki related arts is the intent and therefore which techniques are preformed in what manner. To say that a nodo tsuki does not risk the life of your opponent is simply stupid and dangerous. Yet Ueshiba used it often in aiki budo.

I also read of another Gendai Ryu, created simultaneously to Ueshibas ryu. I would have to look for the article though...

[KurtCobain198666]

@HomunculusProject the princibles of aikido in every school are the same (control and neutralize the attack using joint manipulation, controlling ki and the centre) do no serious harm (being chocked unconscious doesn't kill) don't strike to kill (atemi is always applied). You're argument turned from different martial arts called 'aikido' to different representations of the same art. There is only one aikido in japan. The princible of aiki may be used in other arts, but there is one aikido

[HomunculusProject]

@KurtCobain198666 To say that Yoshinkan is 99.9% the same as the Aikido of Shioda is too far fetched, in my opinion. Obviously the pre-war aikido is far more aggressive and allows a Ju approach, whenever it is needed. Later disciples learned, that Aikido is solely Aiki. Using a leg sweep or applying Nikkyo in a painful manner to force the opponent down is not Aikido in his eyes. In Yoshinkan it would very well be aikido if you strangled your opponent unconscious, after applying a nodo tsuki.

[HomunculusProject]

@KurtCobain198666 Korindo Aikido founded by Minoru Hirai or Nihon Goshin aikido founded by Shodo Morita are different arts, just to name two. That there are various Aikijujitsu styles is obvious. Daito-Ryu itself is even a school that parted from the Takeda clan and made various changes.

Modern arts like "Takeda Ryu Nakamura Ha" also use the term "Aikido" AND "Aikijujitsu". It is, however, highly disputed whether their claim of being koryu is justified or not.