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This is a memorial to Polish dead in the war between Poland and the newly born USSR from the battles which in Polish became known as the Miracle on the Vistula.
In the initial stage of the war, Polish troops advanced strongly into the non determined yet borders of the USSR to be held up after capturing Kiev and the tables turned. Having advanced from the Dniepr the USSR penetrated deeply into Poland in the space of a few weeks. On 10 August 1920 Soviet crossed the Vistula river, planning to take Warsaw from the west while the main attack came from the east. On 13 August a Soviet attack was repulsed near Radzymin.
As the Poles were able to decrypt Soviet radio traffic they knew what the Soviet plan was and reacted accordingly. On 14 August the Poles counter attacked from near Modlin crossing the Wkra River. Although outnumbered the Soviets faced supply problems and probably more importantly commanders were unable to agree on a strategy and attempting to further their own ambitions. Within three days the Poles were able to exploit a huge gap between the Soviet armies. By 18 August 1920 a large amount of Soviet troops were surrounded and then Tukhachevsky, from his Minsk headquarters 480km away ordered a retreat.
The miracle on the Vistula was therefore nothing but in fighting and poor supply from the Soviets backed by Poles by close to their points of supply as well as knowing what the Soviet plan was and being able to counter accordingly.
My channel on you tube : http://www.youtube.com/alanheath is one of the most prolific from Poland. I have produced a number of films, most in English but also in Polish, French, Italian, Spanish and the occasional hint of German and Hebrew. My big interest in life is travel and history but I have also placed films on other subjects.
@wladys678 I can't remember - I get lots of people writing to me. As for my objectivity, I have yet to meet someone who was not blinded by nationalism, hate, racism or something similar who ever questioned it.
As far as hypocrisy is concerned, I also fail to see it.
alanheath 5 months ago
@alanheath Listen Alan, we have already met a month ago twice on 15 July,11 when I commented your work on Belzec-baker part II and on "Munich 1938", so refrain from placing labels on me and pay attention to facts only !!!. I think, these 3 films commented by me prove my objectivity. In this case I can not accept your commentary by reason of violating basic evidence. You might consider yourself an objective, which ought not to prevent you from learning data that is new to you.
wladys678 5 months ago
@wladys678 No, I am neutral - I try to see all points of view. You on the other hand sound like someone who has been brainwashed by the nationalist right in Poland whose very last interest is pointing out the truth when it conflicts with the ideas of power and money.
alanheath 5 months ago
@alanheath I know very well that wikipedia is generally not reliable. In this case though, case of major importance, where not only Poland is interested, but Russia and other power-broker cirlcles, I think that a false data woul'd quickly got corrected.
You are visibly under influence of hypocritical line of England, which always tried to play down Poland's efforts to safeguard its independence.
wladys678 5 months ago
@alanheath I was going to say, youv'e missed a major memorial cemetery to the heroes of that battle, it is located just 1/2 kilometer off the highway from Warsaw to Bialystok and Wilno, at the outskirts of Radzymin. This cemetary has been filmed and is available on many YT clips, it is a site of annual wreath laying ceremonies. I communist times it mwas neglected and even the city of Radzymin was deliberately deprived funds to punished it for the year 1920.
wladys678 5 months ago
@wladys678 Wikipedia is often misleading but it is very nice to use - I know the person who started it, Jimmy Wales, and he would be the first person to admit this.
alanheath 5 months ago
@wladys678 I do not believe that the Soviet invasion was a well prepared action - it was an advance from the Dniepr river which had ran out of steam. The Soviets clearly did not believe that they would put Poland out the war because their HQ was so far back.
I believe that many see this with the benefit of hindsight.
Do you know any sites from this war near Warsaw?
alanheath 5 months ago
@alanheath I took that information from wikipedia, if in the future I find a better source providing different data, I'd post it here. But you are missing the drama of situation when after long retreat Polish Army begun a counter offensive, which NOBODY expected, nobody believed in, when all foreign diplomatic corp leaft Warsaw and Pilsudski deserted the Polish Army. Soviet invasion was a well prepared action to install communism not just in Poland but in rest of Europe.
wladys678 5 months ago
@wladys678 I don't know but I find that hard to believe as the Russian army in 1914 had a major shortage of machine guns - I have figures somewhere for those used at Tannenburg and Masurian Lakes when the Russian army was in much better shape. As for the Soviets having 500 tanks at the Battle of Warsaw I am afraid I do not believe it. I could believe it if I saw reliable information of it though.
alanheath 5 months ago
@wladys678 Solid intelligence work yes - maybe the Soviets can be forgiven for their lack of radio security because less was known then of it today.
alanheath 5 months ago