Uploaded by Cimbolic on Feb 7, 2010
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DATE: February 6, 2010
SHOW: ARE LAWS MADE TO HURT BLACKS ?
GUEST: Represenstative Pam Stephenson, HD 92 (D - Decatur)
Georgia State House of Representatives
http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2009_10/house/bios/stephensonPam/stephenso...
ALSO PARTICIPATING:
Brenda Williams, Lobbyist, President & CEO of Brenda Williams & Associates
Lynn Whatley, Criminal Defense Attorney
Ronald Gregg, Administrative Law Judge, New York
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Georgia Legislative Black Caucus
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I don't buy the premise that laws are created with the intention to hurt Blacks. Laws are applied to everyone in the society. If a law disproportionately affects a particular community, could it not be that members of that community disproportionately violate the law? No, it must be abject racism. Sorry, that doesn't wash. Now, that's not to say that those who enforce the law don't inequitably target certain people. That absolutely does happen. But that has nothing to do with static law.
hulsey1976 2 months ago
@Cimbolic I've been saying this for years. My cousin did five years for sale of drugs. That was eleven years ago. He still can not own or pocess a firearm, can't vote and a whole bunch of other shit. It's crazy. Guys is 36 years old and can't get hired for anything other than working behind a register.
cursivedragon 1 year ago
I agree with you completely, Guiltaur.
What is more, once convicted of a felony the person loses a number of civil rights, depending on the state in which he resides (right to vote, right to be a member of a jury, ....).
So, it renders one a partial citizen. Even though ones "debt" to society has supposed been "paid" by serving time. It's the debt that keeps on taking.
Very discouraging to an individual.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
society without much struggle. When faced with a severe uphill battle and a far easier path of returning to crime, it's no secret that many people choose the latter option.
Simply meting out sentences does not address the fundamental cause(s) of criminal behavior.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
incarceration and the assorted restrictions from having a criminal record does not address the factors leading up to an offense. Also, the restrictions from having a criminal record severely hinder a person's ability to be a productive member of society, which is demanded from them in the first place. We always hear people say to not commit crimes, to be productive members of society, but if a crime is committed, then there is little chance an offender will be able to be a productive member of..
Guiltaur 2 years ago
Additionally, to elaborate on my last point, I believe that arbitrary sentencing can lead to cultivating an increase in severity of criminal behavior, especially if an offender is simply sent to jail to essentially stew for a period amongst other offenders.
Rather than using the threat of punishment alone, I think we must approach offenders on an intellectual level and through rehabilitation, help adjust their perspectives so that they willingly choose a productive lifestyle. Using fear of...
Guiltaur 2 years ago
"Punishment is the lowest form of justice.".
I find your view on the justice system refreshing. I agree that focus on punishment reduces the system to a mechanical process that does not address the individual's offense and the circumstances around that situation. To simply deal out a punishment does not resolve a problem and the offender will likely not simply rehabilitate because they are punished. They will likely continue on with their path and possibly move onto more serious crime.
Guiltaur 2 years ago
Not "divided", but "differences".
There are natual differences in the needs of communites. A farming community has different needs than an urban one.
Politics is always a dialogue between needs.
Cimbolic 2 years ago
@Cimbolic
I would think that we should be governed as a people and not as a divided people.
The division being caused by the implication that it is necessary .
I guess I am a dunce . Because I see it in the light of my first comment.
JAMRAND 2 years ago
@ Angels,
True, singing to the choir doesn't expand the choir.
And there is always a risk of losing potential audience when one's message is provocative.
But, the provocation may wake some new people up, too. It makes people stop and self-assess.
Cimbolic 2 years ago