We Are Products Of Communication

A response to Jeff's video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUJgPVuzXiI&feature=sub

BONUS DRINKING GAME: Take a shot every time I say "will" in this video

Category:

Nonprofits & Activism

Tags:

• communication
• self
• identity
• who
• we
• are
• products
• of
• conformity
• reflection
• expression
• will

[azrienoch]

Back! AND THIS TIME I'M PISSED!!!  Kidding. But that's how I like sequels to go. I like what you say. I do get worried about the whole world-as-will approach, especially when dealing with identity, because world-as-will is so easy to get the private and public mixed up. In fact, I think Schopenhauer got beat up for that at recess.

[ThePunkReturns]

Perhaps I shouldn't have used the phrase "will", rather desire. We use these tools of communication to get what we wish out of people, be it recognition, praise, what have you. In a dialogue both parties are shaping each other and the evolution of "self" in one another. Youtube is in some ways better suited to this, because I can more deliberately get what I desire from others, through editing and exclusion of things that may not help in the goal. That is, if my videos were put together well.

[pe3er]

hmm interesting. but look at some of my video..

the point is.. its an act. and no way in hell would i want to be pe3er my whole life,

but still solid points

[ThePunkReturns]

Oh, clearly it CAN be a character, I didn't mean to say otherwise. But by and large I think people are better expressions of themselves in this medium than in real life interactions.

[Charlymaumushi]

Psychology.

[Youanden]

Oh and, I like it...

[Youanden]

Well, I'll make this quick. What your saying falls directly into John Locke's views on what shapes a person. Sensation (feedback from environment), and Reflection (thoughts on changes, etc)...

I'm not really sure there is a difference besides the name you give it "will".

[johncrwarner]

So is youtube is an orwellian version of the world as you can edit out and add new data to change your persona?

[johncrwarner]

It did sound rather Schopenhauerian at points and if I did drink I would be very drunk after watching that video - I would probably have framed it in terms of feedback and systems but that reflects me as someone who thinks visually and with flow-diagrams etc.

I just put a filter on the most Schopenhauerian bits and understood most of it. However I am not sure that there is any core thing - the will - which is a unique thing to you.

[tattooskin72]

I got drunk too early into this video...

I think sometimes I can be a bit more "real" here on YouTube than I can be in "real life" just because I worry a little less what people actually think of my atheism at least. In the real world, I can't really talk about it so openly and freely.

and yeah, that's probably off topic, but oh well...

[Crawdaddy75]

I find that most people are chameleons. They change their character depending on the audience around them.

[azrienoch]

I am so drunk now. Let me watch it again later.