Libertarian Enslavement - Dr David R Barker on Freedomain Radio (HD)

Dr Barker describes his path to anarchism, the agonies of ending statism, and the short future of fiat currency. Freedomain Radio is the largest and most popular philosophy show on the web - http://www.freedomainradio.com

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[Skorge729]

@LeksServices The line between voluntary and involuntary is very defined. One uses force to achieve its means, one doesnt. No one is sticking a gun to someones head when they offer wages at $1 an hour. No one is making you accept the job either its a voluntary contract. No one has a entitlement to a place to sleep, eat, or breed. They only have the "right" to self ownership and the ownership of their actions. Labor is voluntary until someone sticks a gun to your head and makes you work.

[TS175]

He's a former Federal Reserve employee, so it's no surprise he's thinking of ways to enslave people.

[xcvsdxvsx]

Even though in a free society people would have the right to contract in a way that would allow others to beat them on a daily basis, i dont think very many people would sign such a contract. If a person committed a common law crime only their natural right to free travel would need to be revoked. Therefor the beatings used to incentivize slaves in the past would still be against the law and slavery would probably not be particularly efficient with out the whip.

[tonyfalca]

Deposit insurance.. let me see if I've got this right, "if the bank runs out of money, [the government] will pay you" --- so to pay you back, the government then increases its debt, and, ultimately, the burden of paying back that debt is on you. That's absolute nonsense, how fuckin' silly.

[tonyfalca]

I find it beyond suspicious that the majority of governments are established and enforced under the disguise of God's will; I mean, isn't Canadian and or British law based upon a declaration of God? And if so, doesn't government operate from the assumption that, in a sense, whomever establishes and enforces such law is righteous, or they themselves are righteous... I must've missed out on some really important information sometime between my birth and now.

[tonyfalca]

@Skorge729 @LeksServices Sure, labour is voluntary, but when one has to pay for a permit to hunt their food and ultimately their clothing or face the explicit and implicit repercussions; buy property off of an institution, which assumes its ownership over something that cannot be owned without prejudice, to build shelter or face the explicit and implicit repercussions, so on and so forth, it's voluntarism under duress. It's important to note that ownership is a legal concept and nothing more...

[MillionthUsername]

@PanzerDivisionBOM "You're the one confusing the issue with nebulous terms like "will" and "person"."

Nebulous terms? Ok.

I think I've said all I need to say. I don't want to say anything else.

[PanzerDivisionBOM]

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- actions you're contracting for - then the contract becomes at least theoretically enforceable.

The contract "I relinquish ownership of the red thing to Citibank" is also unenforceable. That's because no judge can claim to have the faintest idea of just what the Hell you're talking about. That does not mean that whatever deal you had in mind when writing it is impossible or unethical. Just explain clearly what you're supposed to do and what with, and voíla - enforceable.