Drive Electric: Cell Phone

Gasoline isn't right for cell phones, and it is no longer right for cars either...

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[joshthecartoonguy]

Where does the electric energy come from? Doesn't it come from burning coal and pumping stuff into the atmosphere, same as gas?

[pluginamerica]

Even when powered by the current US grid, electric cars are still cleaner than even the cleanest gasoline cars. See our emission summary at pluginamerica org/images/EmissionsSummary pdf (replace spaces with .)

[giantquesadilla]

Li-Ion batteries are not harmful to the environment; Lithium is non toxic. No cars (that I know of) are biodegradable, but Li-Ion batteries are 100% recyclable (when was the last time you recycled a gallon of gas).

Can you cite where you are getting the 4X more harmful number and the fleet of classic cars vs 1 new car numbers. I hadn't heard those statistics.

[Darell Dickey]

Let's pretend that it is "actually 4x more harmful to the environment" to make battery cars. Now that the cars are made... what if the gasoline car is 8x more harmful to the environment to operate? We have to look at the whole picture to determine what is better or worse for the environment. Making the cars is just one part. I have no idea where you are getting your statistics, but after studying EVs for ten years, I've not run across anything relevant that supports your assertions.

[Realty333]

More and more today, the electric energy is coming from Clean SOLAR.

[wwbennylavad]

What the ad fails to mention is that the little gas tank on that phone could power it for about five years.

[fairyheli2]

why does everyone look at electric cars as a magical cure of all our energy problems? in Britain there is an energy crisis for electricity, but most houses only use less than 2 kw for most of the time, where's natural gas heating uses 10s of kw in gas, and the electricity comes from non renewable sources anyway. to compare a phone and a car is stupid as they are entirely different things, a phone uses electricity on the signal level (less than 5 watts) wheres a car uses 10s of kw.

[Michael A]

First of all neither is harmful to the environment. Second of all electric comes from coal and nuclear energy. Yes, that dirty old coal that our wonderful president wants to shut down and that evil old nuclear energy. So why are people that are against coal and nuclear energy promoting electric vehicles? Then there's the matter of practicality. Our grid is incapable of handing electric vehicles. In fact, if everyone drove an electric car we would be in blackout within hours.

[NYEChannel]

"What you got there Gas"

"A V8 so FUCK YOU !!!"

[bsabruzzo]

So a quick bit of "dirty research" shows that like oil, which is in many friendly nations, but most of the reserves are in the countries that hate the "Western World" (Middle East, Iran, Russia) and is running out (peak oil), Lithium is also found in a number of nations in small portions, but the bulk is in China and is in a limited supply that can barely keep up with computers and cell phones without cars.

So we are hitting peak Lithium, too. Green can't work if we are out of it.

[bsabruzzo]

Hey, all you pro- Lithium Ion battery tech, ask yourselves where all the Lithium exists in the world... and how it's mined.

Now ask yourself: How often do batteries have to be changed when charged normally (not ideally)?

It's shown that the electrical production can be made more clean... but so can ICE. What hasn't been proven yet is if the storage of electricity can be more efficient that the storage of energy in hydro-carbon.

The world waits, but does it do nothing while it does so?

[bsabruzzo]

Electricity: "Hello, I'm and electric"

Gas: "And I'm how he is created"

Seems like there is a big missing piece.

[fairyheli2]

yes, but cars and phones are completely different things altogether.