Drive Electric: Cell Phone

Gasoline isn't right for cell phones, and it is no longer right for cars either...

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[joshthecartoonguy]

Where does the electric energy come from? Doesn't it come from burning coal and pumping stuff into the atmosphere, same as gas?

[pluginamerica]

@joshthecartoonguy Even when powered by the current US grid, electric cars are still cleaner than even the cleanest gasoline cars. See our emission summary at pluginamerica org/images/EmissionsSummary pdf (replace spaces with .)

[darelldd]

@Sh0rtlife Let's pretend that it is "actually 4x more harmful to the environment" to make battery cars. Now that the cars are made... what if the gasoline car is 8x more harmful to the environment to operate? We have to look at the whole picture to determine what is better or worse for the environment. Making the cars is just one part. I have no idea where you are getting your statistics, but after studying EVs for ten years, I've not run across anything relevant that supports your assertions.

[giantquesadilla]

@Sh0rtlife Li-Ion batteries are not harmful to the environment; Lithium is non toxic. No cars (that I know of) are biodegradable, but Li-Ion batteries are 100% recyclable (when was the last time you recycled a gallon of gas).

Can you cite where you are getting the 4X more harmful number and the fleet of classic cars vs 1 new car numbers. I hadn't heard those statistics.

[bsabruzzo]

So a quick bit of "dirty research" shows that like oil, which is in many friendly nations, but most of the reserves are in the countries that hate the "Western World" (Middle East, Iran, Russia) and is running out (peak oil), Lithium is also found in a number of nations in small portions, but the bulk is in China and is in a limited supply that can barely keep up with computers and cell phones without cars.

So we are hitting peak Lithium, too. Green can't work if we are out of it.

[bsabruzzo]

Hey, all you pro- Lithium Ion battery tech, ask yourselves where all the Lithium exists in the world... and how it's mined.

Now ask yourself: How often do batteries have to be changed when charged normally (not ideally)?

It's shown that the electrical production can be made more clean... but so can ICE. What hasn't been proven yet is if the storage of electricity can be more efficient that the storage of energy in hydro-carbon.

The world waits, but does it do nothing while it does so?

[bsabruzzo]

Electricity: "Hello, I'm and electric"

Gas: "And I'm how he is created"

Seems like there is a big missing piece.

[fairyheli2]

yes, but cars and phones are completely different things altogether.

[HermitMongoose]

I'm sick and tired of these "vs." commercials. It's gotten to the point where it's unoriginal as heck.

[acceptgrace3]

@joshthecartoonguy 41% would be less than half-- pretty big reduction. Your worst case scenario, all electricity coming from coal, isn't the case now and will only be less true in the future.

[2332Hunter]

Whoever thought the concept for this commercial was funny or though provoking was way off the mark.

[lupzter78]

Refining a gallon of gasoline requires about 6 to 7.5kWh worth of energy. You could drive about 30 miles with an electric car with that alone. If the most analyses would take that into account, there would be no debate at all. Electric is just so much cleaner.

[joshthecartoonguy]

@pluginamerica Two of those analyses found that America having all electric cars (while powered by coal) would decreace CO2 by 0%. The other ones claimed there would be a decrease of 17%-59%. So, best case scenario, electric cars' CO2 emissions would be 41% of gas'. Your own study admits the data is mixed on whether electric will decrease or increase pollutants. Maybe the next commercial should say "I'm electric I profit from destroying the planet too, but not quite as much as gas! . . . Maybe."