The US and Israel - Daniel Pipes

The Middle East with Daniel Pipes: Chapter 4 of 5

The Bush administration this year requested $2.5 billion in aid for Israel. Pipes calls such a high level of aid a mistake. It costs Israelis on several levels — for starters, in terms of public opinion of Israel in the United States. That said, a strong U.S.-Israel bond benefits both countries, and contrary to mainstream opinion does not spoil U.S.-Arab relations.

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Daniel Pipes is the director of the Middle East Forum, a Philadelphia-based think tank. Currently the Taube/Diller distinguished fellow at the Hoover Institution, he earned a doctorate in early Islamic history from Harvard in 1978. He is the author of 12 books, including Militant Islam Reaches America and Miniatures: Views of Islamic and Middle Eastern Politics. He writes a weekly column for the Jerusalem Post.

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[rakovskii]

has had a detriment, and seek to rectify if the detriment was unwarranted.

[rakovskii]

To restate Pipes' logic:

IF it is possible for someone to have good relations both sides in a disagreement, THEN there must be no "0 Sum" game going on.

SO: The person can support one side 1000 X more than the other without any detriment ever.

If our policymakers have been applying this logic, they must recognize ASAP that a lopsided approach certainly has had a detriment.

[rakovskii]

@rakovskii Pipes' premise is that in a zero sum game, there is no ability to have good relations with both sides of the equation. Then he applies the confusion to the conflict and decides, well, if it is possible for America to have good relations with both sides, then there must not be a zero sum game going on.

[rakovskii]

Hoover's Q: What do we get from Israel?

Pipes' A: 1. Military benefits, and regarding the detriment: the 1950's idea of a zero sum game in US relations with Israelis and Arabs is wrong and you can have good relations with both.

Mr. Pipes appears very smart. But here is where I think Pipes wrongly confuses for his listeners the relation between two ideas:

a zero sum game and

the ABILITY to have good relations with both sides in a conflict.

[argonium79]

@smodass the problem with your statement are some hundred of years record when minorities from europe fled into muslim lands

[ilanchico]

@virusshamimi

lol what a dumb left wing comment that is based in nothing more than your delusion

[smodass]

Muslims are very violence towards minorities. Usually when a country becomes majority muslims, the minorities start fleeing.

Point is that we are all good and bad in our own ways. Its just that we hate the other guy, when they get the upper hand.

[smodass]

Israel lobby has successfully influenced american foreign policy. Islamic lobbies in USA try to do the same, but with not as much success.

[virusshamimi]

amarica do not need israel at all. israel is the reason why the world specially middle east hate amarican goverments.israel is doomed.

[thesparitan]

why do you like him