Copper Fittings with Solder

Tim Carter, of http://www.AsktheBuilder.com, demonstrates newer copper fittings that have solder built into the actual fitting.

Category:

Howto & Style

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• solder
• copper
• tubing
• pip
• flux
• torch
• propane
• acetylene
• plumbing
• tim
• carter
• ask
• builder

[PUNIqpSHER]

Im a young guy but I don't believe in new technology. That's a lazy mans joint I would guess I'm old school in a way. To me it's like an art. That's for guys who can never get a good joint lol.

[AsktheBuilder]

@PUNIqpSHER I'm with you. I only created the video to show there is another way.

[bunsomatic]

I just found these at my local Canadian Tire store. They were new, yet they were blowing them out the door at 50% off. HHHmmmm, I says, what's up with that.

I'm guessing..(underline 'guessing').. that since these fittings don't come with instructions, people don't know that they still need to be sanded and fluxed.

And they fail!......That's just my take on it, I could be wrong.

[AsktheBuilder]

@bunsomatic They are probably discounted because they are traditionally much more expensive that fittings without the solder. A business only makes money by MOVING product through the store. Each square inch of shelf space MUST produce $XX.xx each week/month or the product devoted to that space must be discontinued. You're seeing that happen is my guess. Those fittings will not be reordered. Not because they don't work, because they are laggards.

[AsktheBuilder]

@jumpdance24 You need to take this discussion to the forums where homeowners have had their houses completely ruined by failed compression fittings both in copper piping and the poly pipes. If you're such a fan of compression fittings, why are there no videos at your channel about them ? Why don't you go on record with some video showing what you know, how strong they are compared to soldered and flared fittings, etc.? You know the old saying don't you, "Actions speak louder than words."

[AsktheBuilder]

Mr. Blazerman,

My short videos are not intended to be a DVD series that is the end all and be all of plumbing. This is just a short one showing this one brand of fitting that had the solder built in. I suggest you take time and belly up to the bar. How? Why don't you grab your camera, shoot what you know and share it with the world on your channel. I went to your channel and there's not one video there. Instead of making comments, use your energy to make videos showing what you know. Thanks!

[zexyjutt]

welldone sir m waseem iqbal your new student

[PUNIqpSHER]

Cool thanks man. I just hate to hear about making things easy and losing the craft part of plumbing

[REXROTH61]

thanks, i enjoy the informative vids. the only bad thing about these fittings i'm guessing is the cost, but they are cool. oh yeah, and geezzz, what a bunch of screwballs always making negative comments, most probably don't know jack squat! anyway, keep up the good work!!!

[cameronblanca]

I am currently repairing one of these jewels that began leaking two years after a plumber installed it. A 3/4 inch copper elbow, pre-soldered, is leaking at the joint. I am just going to cut it off, and sweat a fitting on the old fashioned way. I have never had a problem with sweated joints.

[douglas787]

Don't use the "Just for Copper" stuff that looks like glue. I would never use some type of bond stuff for a copper line. If it opens up under pressure and nobody is home the cost could be enormous. I doubt the plumbing inspector would even pass it where I live. Just learn to solder, it's not hard.

[blaublahblah]

The Yorkshire Integral Solder Ring (ISR) capillary fitting was developed by Yorkshire Fittings in 1934 and represented a major breakthrough for the industry (in 1934) I realise this film is 3 years old but Yorkshire fittings are 76 years old.

[101nagen]

Tehy arte called yorkshire fittings in the uk and have been in use for years, there is around 1 and half times more solder in the fitting than you actually need. On a side note, some people when installing pipe like to flux as they go and then go back a little while later and solder (not the best idea really) the solder will actually cause these fitting to "sweat" and fuse making any errors hard to correct with out having to replace the pipe before soldering.

[MrDegs1968]

ive got news for you pal we have used them in england for the past 40 or so years they are good but its always wise to run a small amount of extra solder on them for piece of mind if you solder the pipe in a real situation you cant always tell if the solder has run all the way around you dont want leaks everwhere when the pipes get boxed in or are under your floor hope this helps