Obama/Biden hit back at Mccain/Palin's lies on taxes

Joe Biden, Regular Guy: I know this debate was mostly about Sarah Palin, but let's not be sexist and forget about Joe Biden. I thought he was great, not least because he came across as what Palin pretends to be but isn't—and what this campaign could really use: a regular person who resists pat categorizing, rather than a caricature in a polarized drama that bears no relation to life.

I'm not saying that's Biden's usual public mode by any means: Man-off-his-meds can be more his style. But last night on the stage next to Palin, he was a guy in a dark suit who calmly confounded a script that's getting awfully tiresome. He wasn't the Elite Insider to her Maverick Outsider; the way Biden drew on his career accomplishments, he made 36 years in the Senate sound like real-world experience with real challenges for an independent minded person—not (as McCain often does) arcane ritual, and not like the vague grandstanding Palin invokes when she refers to her executive experience. He didn't come across as Professorial Wonk to her Main Street Mom, either, and not just because he said "champ" and invoked his blue-collar origins; he marshaled facts with ease, gave them punch because he knew what he was talking about, where for all her folksiness, her own patter sounded totally canned.

And he wasn't the Old Guy to her Young Gal; only six years younger than McCain, Biden may say "ladies and gentlemen," but he seems a generation apart, lacking the condescendingly old-school tone I hear in everything McCain says about his running mate. Maybe it's that Biden has a hands-on dad aura, which he comes by totally honestly. (Shouldn't we be parsing that choke-up? Seemed completely real to me.)

Race, gender, age, class, education, values, experience: This is a campaign in which both sides like to talk about surmounting divisions and bringing both sides together. But doggone it, you don't very often get to see someone just walking the walk.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/xxfactor/archive/2008/10/03/joe-biden-regula...
Sarah Palin has put a new face and voice to the long-standing, powerful, but inchoate movement in US political life that one might see as a mutant variety of Poujadism, inflected with a modern American accent. There are echoes of the Poujadist agenda of 1950s France in its contempt for metropolitan elites, fuelling the resentment of the provinces towards the capital and the countryside towards the city, in its xenophobic strain of nationalism, sturdy, paysan resistance to taxation, hostility to big business, and conviction that politicians are out to exploit the common man. In 1980, Ronald Reagan profitably tapped the movement with his promises of states rights, low taxes and a shrunken government in Washington; the Reagan Democrats who crossed party lines to vote for him are still the most targeted demographic in the country. In 1992, Ross Clean out the Barn Perot and his United We Stand America followers looked for a while as if they were going to up-end the two-party system, with Perot leading George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton in the midsummer polls. In 1996, Pat Buchanan (The peasants are coming with pitchforks) appealed to the same bloc of voters with a programme that was militantly Christian, white, nativist, provincial, protectionist and anti-Washington. In 2000, Karl Rove cleverly enrolled this quasi-Poujadist faction in his grand alliance of libertarians, born-agains and corporate interests. Its worth remembering that in 2004 every American city with a population of more than 500,000 voted for Kerry, and that the election was won for Bush in the outer suburbs, exurbia and the countryside peasants with pitchforks territory. For an organisation so wedded to its big-city corporate clients, the Republican Party has been hugely successful in mopping up the votes of low-income, lightly educated rural and exurban residents.

Most large American cities, especially in the West, are situated in counties that extend far beyond the city limits. Liberal urban governments with high property-tax rates and progressive environmental policies wield great power (some say tyranny) over their rural hinterlands, delivering ukases about land use and conservation: brush-cutting is to be limited to 40 per cent of the property; setbacks of 100 feet are required from streams and wetlands; new churches are denied building permission because they are deemed large footprint items in critical habitat areas etc. So the householder or farmer sees the city making unwarranted infringements of his God-given right to manage his land as he pleases, and imagines his precious tax-dollars being squandered on such urban fripperies as streetcar lines and monorails.
http://www.lrb.co.uk/v30/n19/raba01_.html

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[d3v07]

MCSHAME IS WRONG

Obama / Biden '08

[66barry]

Obama did indeed vote twice to raise the taxes on middle class Americans.Mccain voted against the tax.

[gamefan101]

Obama failed completely and will not be relected it wont even be a race in 2012 and with Biden well whats with him hes just completely senile haha

[micmore007a]

Ewe have to feel stupid now... kool aid

[frio109]

Dasen,

Why haven't you embrace 'change and hope'?

Why Obama has promised you higher taxes.

Why Joe Biden knows you want to be a patriotic American and pay more taxes for Obama's Health Scare Tax Scam

[guitarmask1]

DEMOCRATS ARE SCUM

[dasenuff]

OLBERMAN AATTENTION OLBERMAN... ACCORDING TO THE POLL TAKEN BY AT&T...BIDEN LOST THE DEBATE ASSHOLES! ALSO ATTENTION OLBERMAN...PULL YOUR TOUNGE OUT OF OBAMAS ASS! THE ELECTION IS ALMOST OVER AND YOUVE GOT TO START SAVING FACE lol!!!!

[4ALL2SEECLEAR]

Obama would be VERY VERY BAD for the US Economy ! Wake Up People 10th Grade Economics ! RAISING TAXES in a RECESSION is CRAZY ! read varefully the tax hike and road building programs HOOVER laid out -- you have heard of the HOOVER DAMN hmmm 21% unemployment recession into depression !!!! 10th Grade Economics

[dankbot420]

references?

[dave777blaster]

Imagine if 90% of the people said a vote for Ralph NAder is a lost vote and then vote for either of these two insiders

[slizzler1]

How American is Palin;

Sarah & Todd Palin have both been involved with the AIP (Alaska Independence Party). AIP's goal is for Alaska to breakaway from the US. Documented, confirmed: during 1995-2002 Todd Palin was a registered member of the Alaskan Independence Party. Sarah Palin wasn't just palin' with a registered secessionist -- she'd been sleeping with 'em.