Everyone Is a Slave

a lot of inaccuracies but he brings the main point to life. Slavery never ended in the United States.

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Education

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• Slavery
• Wage Slavery
• Constitution
• US
• America
• Freedom

[AccumulatedKnowledge]

@Luigi84289 You know, I've heard Chomsky complain that libertarianism in the US means different than what it did or does in the world, but never the term liberalism in these two contexts.So that's one conflict of interest I see. I also wonder whether Chomsky will change his mind on democracy if introduced to Public Choice.

Btw, do explain, how exactly does wage slavery work if it's voluntary?

[Luigi84289]

@AccumulatedKnowledge It's not voluntary if you are rooted in a city you have to work for a boss under the threat of starvation with a fixed wage even if your goal is to get out. It's a condition of duress you do not have access to your basic needs. The globalists want everyone to be wage slaves and have all the land controlled by Government allied corporations.

[AccumulatedKnowledge]

@Luigi84289 Hmm, yes, the old "Untermencsh" argument. The problem with that line is that A) even if that were truly slavery (and it isn't), it would apply to a small minority, at least in the quasi market economies of the developed world, and B) these conditions are so vague, that we are all slaves to the reality to which we live in, thus making the term and its implication meaningless.

Btw, I do agree that the mixing of corporations with government power has been a tragedy for modern times.

[Luigi84289]

@AccumulatedKnowledge No listen to chomsky. To be free is to own your own property and be completely self sufficient. This is what is being done away with. Whoever owns is free. We are moving towards a state in which everyone is dependent on corporations for everything. Being a dependent is a slave, having someone over you.

[dantean]

Most people elect to work for others and spend their money on things OTHER than starting their own companies so as to work for themselves alone. Why would I believe people employees are wage slaves if they prefer slavery to freedom (or prefer being a slave to being an owner of oneself if not of other slaves)? This seems logically suspect to me.

[Luigi84289]

@dantean Slavery is slavery. A child is a slave by definition.

[jonathanaconway]

It is nature that compels us humans to produce our own sustenance, through the use of our minds and through physical labour, not an act of force by employers. A free market of voluntary associations makes it easier for us to sustain ourselves, by allowing each person to specialize in some aspect of production, and to develop tools that make each one more productive. To the extent that the free market has existed, it has led us upward from primitive feudal agriculture to industrial civilization.

[jonathanaconway]

@Luigi84289 A child is similar to a slave in certain respects, but not the same thing. A child's right to live and to be protected from physical or sexual abuse is upheld. The child is only 'property' of parents because A) the parents produced him, B) the child is not capable of fully exercising his own individual rights and must therefore be both protected and restricted until he is. If children are to be treated as full adults, would you allow the sale of liquor/drugs to minors?

[jonathanaconway]

OK, so employment is wage slavery? So was it the employer's *choice* that I would be born as a human, requiring a certain daily caloric intake and sufficient shelter and clothing? I don't think so. That's a simple fact of nature, which is not open to anyone's choice, and which we can't magically escape from. So since it's not an employer's choice that such is the case, why is employment on a free market to be considered slavery? In what way was I *forced* by another human being to take the job?

[fede2]

libertarianism, when pushed to the fringes of it's ideological confines, does not put individual autonomy at the center, but rather the rejection of state power. this is obviously a weak analysis. they don't reject hierarchy or large concentrations of power as such, only in the hands of the state. they fail to see how private property tends to the same essential problem. some even advocate social conservatism in favoring families or churches, failing to see their authoritarian tendencies.

[Basram]

The whole substance of this video is that the economy or the society we live in is a direct product of the discours that have been dominating throughout the years. Namely that of a hierarchical class system where the ruling class wants to keep their power and thus their interests corrupts all knowledge in the society. This makes it impossible for people excluded from the ruling class to "break free", even owners of companies are slaves to the system.

[LucifersLapdog]

@AccumulatedKnowledge - Your very choice of title betray's your arrogance and (and possibly your ignorance). We are NOT a "democracy" by any means, nor have we EVER BEEN ONE. Many "people" don't know their "slaves" in the first place - so how can you ever free yourself when you don't know your a corporate slave?!

[VotePaineJefferson]

If the premise is, everyone is entitled to their "basic needs," then who provides those basic needs for you? If noone is required to work, then you can't force farmers to work to provide food for the growing populace.

Thanks, I'll go back to reading Lew Rockwell now.

[giroyagetme]

United states is a corporation owned by britian

[dantean]

@Navywxman You negelect to explain what it is about my logic you find suspect, but I will explain what I was getting at in simpler terms if you feel that will help you. While it may be idiotic to give away one's freedoms, it is nevertheless a mark of being free that one is able to exercise the power to do with those freedoms as one sees fit. I hope this helps you. Good luck.