1.- Electron Classical Model

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Classical Model of the Electron:
We usually think of an electron as a little sphere with negative charge turning around itself
And usually assumed...
The Center of Mass (CM) and the Center of Charge (CC) are both at the center of this sphere.
But this model raises some questions...
1.How is the negative charge distributed? If the charge is spreadWhy doesnt it repel itself and explode?
2.The Spin is an angular momentum, and if the size is so small, it has to rotate faster than light to produce such spin.
3.If we are not able to determine its mass and charge distribution, why are we assuming that CC and CM are the same point?
4.Why the measured gyromagnetic ratio g=2 if in a sphere g=1?
5.How electrons can be paired and form Boson Condensates with integer spin like in Superconductors?

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[Hythloday71]

It seems an impressive set of vids, i have a question though, this idea of separation of centre of mass and centre of gravity - is it standard accepted theory? i read elswhere i thought, that the electron was considered a point like particle.

[SpinningParticle]

The Spinning Particles model, in which the electron continues to be a point like particle BUT with the center of charge rotating around a virtual center of mass, is a theory with strong mathematical background and published in several first line peer reviewed journals

[SpinningParticle]

as can be checked in the references page of SpinningParticles. Anyway I must say that the classical model with the center of charge in the center of mass continues to be more widespread.

[ron1616935]

Simple and elegant model.  Worth watching all 13 clips. Can the idea be extended or generalized to other pointlike particles?

[SpinningParticle]

Yes, it is a general model valid for fundamental particles with spin. Simply put, it describes the spin as a difference between the position of the center of charge and the center of mass and the properties that derive from this.

[gyro5d]

I was looking for something I just saw. Everything has opposite and equal reaction with everything (wasn't that Newton?). Except a magnet spins negative particle around it and has no reaction from the reaction. Isn't that what you just showed us in your video? Are you sure CM isn't Center Magnetism? Isn't that what light is? A magnetic spike traveling spinning a plasma of electrons behind the magnetic spike? This is why a photon can eject an electron from it's atomic shell.

[brocq18]

Could someone explain the concept of spin to me, I am completey dumbofunded.

[HSAdestroy]

I'm high.

[riorio23]

learn to right hand rule

[999VELAZQUEZ]

Ok, so that the vectors are dificult with

the time, and if had wrong with time

too have problm w. space.

ads the universe are not homogenius.

[urlink77]

So cute electron^^!!!! jeje

[Hythloday71]

@MrMartinchu -Personally, whilst i recognise 'its' usefullness, i deny the reality of the 'real' number system and all connected to it. Particular matters circular, i guess. I believe a discrete math will hold a truer picture. So further developments of understanding in terms of 'freq' of the electron clk are disheartening in a way. I would like to study a property rules based sys. involving only discrete transitions if there be such a sys? Do u have any pointers ?

[Hythloday71]

@MrMartinchu - thanks for that, even if it is largely gobbledy gook 2 me, i understand what symetry groups are, so i guess the short answer to my question is yes, it is different. I will keep an eye out for its developments with regards to these predictions.

[MrMartinchu]

@Hythloday71

One of the things is that if it is true, the electron is a clock and its frequency can be measured. A proposal in that direction seems to be plausible and can be found in ArXiv:0809.3635

The other thing is that the kinematical group of the model is larger than the Poincare group. It is a 11-parameter group, The Weyl group W, although the classical model has a larger symmetry group which is wxSO(3)X(R+), which when quantized becomes WxSU(2)xU(1)

[MrMartinchu]

@Hythloday71

There are only two possibilities for particles: That both points (Center of Mass, CM for short and center of charge CC) are exactly the same point or that they are different. If they are the same is the usual assumption. If they are different, the formalism leads necessarilly to the conclusion that the CC has to move at the speed of light, the particle has spin 1/2 when quantized, has a g=2 gyromagnetic ratio and satisfies Dirac's equation.