George and George Discuss Collective Bargaining and Wisconsin

George Washington and George W discuss collective bargaining, public sector unions, football, used Ford trucks and dancing.

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[wmarkhay]

This does make an enlightening point which helps explain a domestic conflict with my liberal wife/public sector employee whose retirement is with the Wisconsin state retirement fund. The example of how many people want the exemplified public jobs compared to available openings is valid, but what she sees in her particular position (nurse practitioner) is an INABILITY to hire qualified folks because our county pays so much less than private employers in our greater Twin Cities metro area.

[dozapictures]

@wmarkhay I don't doubt that. From my research, it doesn't seem that there is uniform overpayment across states or across employee types. It very much depends on the environment that exists in the state, which includes whether there is collective bargaining and/or binding arbitration. Specific employee groups seem to benefit more than others. Police and fire unions seem to hold a great deal of political power, so you see them reap the most rewards.

[canard651]

What a load of crap.

Carefully constructed crap to be sure. I found it entertaining, but clearly stilted to its point of view to the extent that it did not paint an accurate picture.

[dozapictures]

@canard651 Can you be specific about what you thought was false or misleading?

[psKESEY56]

Excellent analysis, and I like the injection of humor as well.

[magicfansgk]

@edyken77 Think about what you posted. The "billionaires" you are talking about are the tax paying citizens. These are public employees, paid for by tax payers which is me and you. When a Union demands high pay and benefits from an employer, they are taking from profits of the company. The Government does not make a profit. The Government is an expense. They are taking money from your wallet and you don't even realize it but sit there and defend them because you hate capitalism. Typical.

[astrofrk]

Why don't you look up what the founders thought about Corporations? Thomas Jefferson was especially hard on them when he stated that they were a great threat to Liberty. Look up the East India or Hudson and you will understand. Nor did Coprorations have constitutional rights until a century ago. If you want to quote a founder, you better get your facts right. Talk about income, how much do CEO's make? Not enough I guess since they needed all that corporate welfare.

[jagg1951]

the unions must work together to shut down the economy until rights are restored a simple example of 500 or more tractor trailers blocking highways surrounding political buildingd, garbage piling up no snow removal, but the unions must hold steadfast in denying all services until rights are restored,

[kwagner99]

Pure crap

[dozapictures]

@illSavant I checked the number today for California - its now over 14,000 public employees receiving pensions over $100k per year (Calpers, Calstrs and UC). Google "California Pension Reform" for the database.

[edyken77]

Just sucks that the unions aren't willing to just give up and surrender all the money to the billionaires. I just feel so bad for the billionaires, ya know? Like even though I'll never make over 100k a year I just want to help them so they can have all the money. Is that so wrong?

[huygigh]

@ltlwatcher *Easily*? Why don't you then? Oh, because you'd have to gather your own clients, pay your own health insurance and pay for your own retirement plan? I would be willing to bet that the 46k is your take home, without adding the health insurance and retirement package!

[huygigh]

Why argue? Union members are brainwashed, they don't see the cycle of politicians handing out higher pay and benefits to BUY votes, then kick the "unforseen" financial trouble down the road. The grocery store analogy hits the nail on the head, if choice is limited to a single option, the single option holds all the cards.