Mora: Abu Ghraib & Gitmo Get US Troops Killed

Former Navy Inspector General Alberto Mora testifies before the Senate Committee on Armed Services Hearing on the Treatment of Detainees in U.S. Custody (June 17, 2008) that:

'All of these factors contributed to the difficulties our nation has experienced in forging the strongest possible coalition in the War on Terror....'

"...But the damage to our national security also occurred down at the tactical or operational level. Ill cite four examples:"

"First, there are serving U.S. flag-rank officers who maintain that the first and second identifiable causes of U.S. combat deaths in Iraq as judged by their effectiveness in recruiting insurgent fighters into combat are, respectively the symbols of Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo. And there are other senior officers who are convinced that the proximate cause of Abu Ghraib was the legal advice authorizing abusive treatment of detainees that issued from the Department of Justices Office of Legal Counsel in 2002."

"Second, allied nations reportedly hesitated on occasion to participate in combat operations if there was the possibility that, as a result, individuals captured during the
operation could be abused by U.S. or other forces."

"Third, allied nations have refused on occasion to train with us in joint detainee capture and handling operations because of concerns about U.S. detainee policies."

"And fourth, senior NATO officers in Afghanistan have been reported to have left the room when issues of detainee treatment have been raised by U.S. officials out of fear that they may become complicit in detainee abuse."

"Mr. Chairman, Albert Camus cautioned nations fighting for their values against selecting those weapons whose very use would destroy those values. In this War on Terror, the United States is fighting for our values, and cruelty is such a weapon."


Former Navy Inspector General Mora's complete testimony is available at:

http://armed-services.senate.gov/statemnt/2008/June/Mora%2006-17-08.pdf

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[log140]

@catchup0122 you should read it yourself before stating something like that...

i know Bush was to stupid to understand the Geneva Convention and called it "vague"..

and since you are reading it... find any written law (US-Law or GC) were it is stated, that you can torture! you will find none, because you are not allowed to do it! period

[catchup0122]

have any proof? if thats really true, why is iraq somewhat normal now?

[im4wur2]

@catchup0122 - You miss former US Navy Inspector General Alberto Mora's point entirely. The US's use of torture CREATES terrorists (regardless to your illegitimate claims).

[thevirtueallliberal]

I believe it . They should be closed down . I know one of the reasons they're not now is the legal nightmare the Bush administration has created and the politics of fear and misinformation by the Republicans . Thumbs up on the video im4wur2 !

[log140]

at least in the NATO there are ppl who understood the Geneva Convention...

for any soldier reading this: if you are ordered to torture someone, you have to react like you were ordered to jump from the top of a building!!!