SiCKO Questions - Asking about Michael Moore's Movie

After I saw SiCKO, I went to Canada to ask for the truth.

I also did some searching on the web and found some interesting links...

US ranked 37:
http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

The WHO report:
http://www.who.int/inf-pr-2000/en/pr2000-44.html

A document backing up Moore's campaign contribution figures:
http://www.ourfuture.org/docUploads/donnelly$_1-15-04.pdf

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• SiCKO
• Michael
• Moore
• healthcare
• hospital
• 9-11
• movie
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• mitt
• romney
• libertarian

[AtheistAaron]

Very big of you to make this video. In fact, very rational of you. Great video!

[unassimilated]

Thanks AtheistAaron. I think that the greatest challenge in rational thought is flushing out my own irrationalities. I love being right but it is almost more gratifying to find out when I am wrong since I then at least know I've seen both sides of the issue. I hope a lot of people switch sides on socialized medicine.

[DblOSmith]

Very good video.I've worked in US healthcare for several years, and helping sick people is a side effect of their business, not the main goal. Insurance companies tell the treatment facilities how to treat patients (instead of by need), doctors bilk insurance companies. You spend more time playing tug of war with money than treating patients.

[unassimilated]

The part of the movie where the British doctor was explaining his incentives was very revealing. They were all around improving the health of his patients. What a novel concept!

[waynewin]

Open question to Americans. Seriously, do Americans really believe the garbage they are being told by their leaders about the Canadian Health Care system? I am over 60, lived in Canada all my life, have had some health problems, and have been looked after when needed, by a doctor or hospitial of my choice and never paid a dime. For the life of me, I can't realistically understand why the Canadian system is considered inferior to the US Health services in any area.

[opaz79]

USA needs public healthcare, combined with private options. Its the best way to solve it, despite its drawbacks. People will abuse the system, especially immigrants, women usually, who cant believe its free and brings their kids every other week, causing wait times that exceeds to over a year. And politicians will have a solid argument to continously raise the taxes and then still cut healthcare funding once he gets elected.

[Yanirakarola]

You ignore the main principle at hand...non-aggression. You can't force people to pay money just because they were born in "your" country. I'm all for privitizing the fire department because it will become more efficient and the private charities will be allowed to help the actual people in need as opposed to the overworked underpayed gov workers...

[colour749]

if your really against big government then would you rather a private police, and fire service or would that be chatoic like the current health system.

the american health system is the 2nd most expensive in the world but 37th in quality ?????.

and you fucking tell me my british NHS is shit ahahahahhaahah you dont know unless you fucking leave your american house turn off your brain washing news corporations and see with your own eyes the NHS IS AMAZING

[silkentresses]

Canadian here, happy with our healtcare system for the most part (no country's system is flawless and without complaint after all) and would never consent to having it changed to a privatized system. I've lived through 2 very serious illnesses which would most likely have resulted in my death had I not been a Canadian with access to care. I was treated well and able to see the top specialist in Canada in neuro-opthamology at no cost to me.

[rickbar123]

Show up at a American Hospital with a chronic desease and no insurance. See what you get.

[ulysseinvest]

Not sure I understand the point of your question.

The US govt current debt floats around 14 trillion usd today (that's not including the upcoming liabilities for medicstuff and social securities yet to be paid for of about 40 trillion usd). Private and corporate in US also most of them are pretty leveraged. So yes US is currently the greatest debtor in the world and reserves are only 50 billion USD (even Poland has more than that today). China is currently one of the greatest lender nations.

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[louisgdehaut]

you got a point, but don't the US have a greater debt over to China?

[louisgdehaut]

Well, here's my story: I am Canadian, had a doctor screw up my leg. I won 300 000$ for that mistake. I know for a fact some doctors use our healthcare card like a credit card, because the more patients in a day, the more money, I'm not 100% sure it works like that, but bottom line, I didn't have an x-ray at a certain time because of a doctor in a rush, and there you have. no more ankle on one side, and lost a great job and sports. So, I'm pretty sure I would get charged 150.00$ for each x-ray.

[louisgdehaut]

Japan didn't have a military to operate for many years. There's the US economy right there: the ARMY.

[ulysseinvest]

Unassimilated,

I see many wrongs I think in the reflection you posted in this video. I have been in Japan for 15 years.

First in Japan corporations have HIGH taxes - the employee pays little. You should try to launch a business in Tokyo. Yes, individuals don't pay much but...

Also, it took 76 years ('90 - '14) for the USSR to collapse. France, Canada, Japan are slowly but surely building serious debt... Would be unwise to take last picture today and assess... sustainability is the issue...

[balsubu]

I have known of what the elderly gentleman from yorkshire is referring to,that people go to India(my home) to get treatment. Infact ,it is a thriving industry called medical tourism.We have a sysyem where poor people opt for govt hospitals which are largely poor in terms of maintenance and staffing but they have no choice.The people with money go to private hospitals which give good services at a reasonable price,still much less than what you people in the US are paying.Hence the tourism.