Urea cell build #2. The Cell Design
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How about 1 slightly larger hole at the bottom in the middle for water inlet and 2 holes at the top for gas outlet. It would seem that only having 1 hole at the top would be a little restrictive.
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Have you attempted a wider gap? like 3/8" or 1/2". It seems like that would be better since you explained why a smaller gap would not be that efficient. I realize that too much of a gap would also soon have a negative effect. Just wondering if you have experimented with wider gaps?
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ANY - I MEAN - ANY - air gap in a dry cell design is dangerous ! It is a point at which the HHO gas can be ignited by even the tiniest static spark. It would be bad too, think about it, it would be before the bubblers, use hydraulic pressure, and the entire system would be destroyed. A dry cell should always remain fully flooded. A constant flow of electrolite circulating is what's needed.
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I thought I was the only one who tested elyte concentration by drinking it.
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I took a second look at your video an noticed you could increase the leakage path distance to 12 inches by lining up the elect./gas holes in all the plates and ensuring that no metal was exposed at the plate holes. Make the plate holes larger and place an o-ring inside them to seal between the slotless Teflon gaskets. This should also decrease flow resistance because each cell is connected directly to the in and out passages.
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I am also using grade 8 bolts this time instead of stainless. The stainless bolts break too easy. I am going to cover the bolt in heat shrink to prevent shorts and contact with KOH.
I would not recommend bedliner material of any type. It does block current leakage but comes loose from the plate over time.
Larry
I like sealed electrolyte and gas paths between the plates. I made a similar design using multiple layers of neoprene gasket material. Worked fantastically to reduce current leakage to near zero. Problem I had was when the cell heated up, the neoprene would swell up choking off the passages. I couldn't run the cell above 95 deg. F. Tried an acrylic center gasket, but had lots of leaks because of expansion. Your Teflon gaskets should solve that problem. Great idea! Keep the videos coming.
cuke8466 2 years ago
I also had issues when trying this with nitrile gaskets. Teflon will not swell with heat and is a much harder gasket than we are used to. I hope it works. We will find out soon. I now have all the parts and should be running this weekend.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago
too late for the change, but why not cut insets into the Teflon sheets for the Nickel plates to drop into. Cut channels in the Teflon for the electrolyte and gas to flow through and eliminate all holes in the Nickle plates. Drill your bolt holes through the Teflon sheets to run your SS all thread rod through and use SS locknuts to compress it all together. That's how I got my cell constructed..
altern8energy 2 years ago
I made an acrylic cell just like that. It was difficult to seal up but I still like the concept. As far as eliminating current leakage this should work just as well.
Larry
HHOPWR 2 years ago