Alan Watts - Myth and Religion - Jesus and his Religion Pt 1/6

Alan Wilson Watts was a British philosopher, writer, speaker, and student of comparative religion. He was best known as an interpreter and popularizer of Asian philosophies for a Western audience.

He wrote more than 25 books and numerous articles on subjects such as personal identity, the true nature of reality, higher consciousness, meaning of life, concepts and images of God and the non-material pursuit of happiness. In his books he relates his experience to scientific knowledge and to the teachings of Eastern and Western religion and philosophy.

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[3AtomicJabez8]

Check out "Strong's Concordance" to see some of the huge gaps in translation from Greek and Hebrew to English. Words like discipline are translated from a Hebrew word that "could" be translated into a dozen English words from, "Rod, pencil, staff, guide, balance, etc.". Language has complex finesse is communication, and to write information in text limits it. Translation then at this point is to water down the information and leaves it open to WIDE interpretation.

[handsaflame]

I'd like this Alan Watts to meet with Shirley and Fred Phelps.

[thewhite9t]

@tomitstube Firstly, if you would listen to what he actually says, the bible did not come directly from "god" in a conventional sense. You've clearly missed the point he was trying to make. Allen Watts- not for the feeble of mind.

[samanjayatilaka1]

Alan Watts - Myth and Religion - Jesus and his Religion Pt 1/6

[me25422]

@3AtomicJabez8 great thanks, ihave known of Watts but feel i really only "discovered" him recently and man is he thought provoking.

[3AtomicJabez8]

@me25422 I used to be majorly into Bible study,,outside any church authority..I used several Bibles translations and "Strong's Exhaustive Concordance." by James Strong...Plus Alan Watts cover many of theses words through out his lectures. I found one online looking it up for you at eliyah.com

[me25422]

@3AtomicJabez8 where could i learn more about this topic. do u have any references available? thanks!

[doctrwilson]

@MushroomedAnymore You just don't understand what Christianity really teaches. Islam I will not speak for, considering I have no knowledge of it, but in the most polite fashion which I can present my opinion to you I will say that your interpretation of Christianities beliefs of post-earthly life's presence is contrary to the claims which your comment made

[MushroomedAnymore]

@Watchdawg The very premises of omniscience and omnibenevolance contradict the punishment of eternal hell for sinners. At least in Buddhism souls work off bad deeds, heavy karma etc. through reincarnation. No one is ultimately damned. Islam, Christianity and Islam are childish at best, Ultimacy is a different category than Earthly; plus burning Hitler for all eternity (eternity!) makes anyone no better than him. Time to nail the coffin on those wicked belief systems.

[tomitstube]

so the reason the bible is a bunch of contradictory nonsense, and that there is no proof of any real jesus... is because god doesn't want our brain to "atrophy".

stephen hawking is right, "philosophy is dead".

[3AtomicJabez8]

@3AtomicJabez8 In the example I gave I was thinking "Spare the Rod spoil the child." ; here many take this as I need to hit my child or punish my child for wrong doing or they will be spoiled or ruined, Once I look at the Hebrew translation I hear "Teach your child the proper way by giving them a pencil and having them write it after you have demonstrated writing." or any such attitude of instruction with Balance and authority based in balance and example teaching.

[3AtomicJabez8]

@Ecclesiastical7 so the written sentence "That guy was sick." tells you what the author was saying?, now translate that sentence to Hebrew with out understanding whats it really saying,,now take that Hebrew sentence and preach it as truth. And the translated sentence "I am "the" son of God", was translated from "A" son of God", thats a very minor change and creates a huge difference in meaning.

[Ecclesiastical7]

@3AtomicJabez8 It really doesnt leave it to wide interpretation... ill use an example from the english language, the word "sick"  .. sick can mean someone is ill, or it could also mean awesome, or cool.. it could also mean gross, or vile.. the context of the sentence will put into your mind how the word is used, its the same thing with Discipline in Hebrew, the way its used in a sentence will define what the word will mean

[Watchdawg]

Christianity, Islam, Judaism whatever are an insult to humanity.

[TheDouchesupreme]

@CecilRhodesIlluminat Yes !!! being named Allen or Graham makes a person automatically a misanthrope. God made it so on the eighth day of creation. The day when he was kicking it, having a beer, thinking to himself "wouldn't it be fun to make all the Allens and Grahams untrustworthy." Religious nut jobs rarely if ever use critical thought, you're a good example of such a person.

[4thsubaru]

knowledge is wisdom and wisdom is fact. But all facts are all based on human conciseness pre-thoughts to paper! Thoughts are “normally” based on sight. So my thought. Can we trust someone else’s sight to formulate how we are “suppose” to live?

Y R U, U? Y B U if it is based off someone else’s sight? B U 4 U!

[zaroffhound]

@CecilRhodesIlluminat hahahaha. lovely joke. Alan, Allan, Allen..must be a conspiracy. Edgar Allan Poe?..did he hate christianity?..this chap seems to be open to 'wether or not, entirely beside the point'...whereas Thee, seem to be angry. Hence the LARGE CAPS!.. funny.

[ArgosSmith2009]

@CecilRhodesIlluminat Are you sure that your not projecting onto him, and that you have a deep hidden hatred of Christianity?

[waspsoul95]

@CecilRhodesIlluminat than don't listen to him,don't try to tell other ppl what to listen to,save yourself,let others make there own choice,you christ lovers are so uptight,and trying to do your gods work, he is allmighty lol,just prostraight and worship your god.

[BYourselflessness]

@CecilRhodesIlluminat your assumptions are ridiculous and it shows just how immature you really are. Type in all caps more... Sorry you don't agree with what he thinks, but it's no reason to attack him and make huge generalizations about large groups of people. Grow up.

[ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR]

@Roonoon2 Hello. I found the The lost book of Enki a good place to start. If you're able to read pdf files on your computer then google - 'The lost book of Enki PDF' It may not look much at the start but bear with it and it gets into the tablet translations after the intro sections. If PDF doesn't work you need to download free adobe reader but otherwise google the same search term and the 4th link down should be a 'Scribd' version. It's a shorter version but main details are there. Regards.

[Roonoon2]

@ThEmIdNiGhTiNtRuDeR hay man soz if stupid question but where can i find the ancient sumerian texts? what site is best?

[Ravendbleader]

Think for yourself question Authority.

[jeremyfrancis]

nothing is crude, rude, right or wrong, beautiful or ugly, real or fake: only our interpretations of them are.

[CecilRhodesIlluminat]

THIS GUY HAS BEEN BIBLE BASHED AS A KID CLEARLY, LIKE MY FATHER, HIS GOD IS MODERN MEDICINE AND SATAN TOO... ALAN SOUNDS LIKE A CAMBRIDGE GRADUATE, ONE OF THAT ERA, NEVER TRUST A MAN NAMED ALAN, FOR SOME REASON THAT NAME, SCREWS THEM UP TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, FOR SOME UNFATHOMABLE. INEXPLICABLE REASON... ALAN TURING, WOODY ALLEN, GRAHAM IS ANOTHER, FOR SOME REASON AGAIN INEXPLICABLE.. THIS MAN CLEARLY HAS A HATRED, A HATRED, OF CHRISTIANITY..HE JUST GOES ON AND ON ABOUT IT...