Don't repeat Vietnam in Afghanistan Pt.2

hi everyone,,,i might be out of place here,,,but just thought mentioning one point,,,i am a pakistani,,,,we dont hate us, atleast the litrate lot,,,we hate the US policies......the way these r acting the very life of a single individual over here is much more than enough to create more talibans than destrying them

knight2102:

You're not out of place at all. Politics are often too complicated for discussion in 500 characters or less. The governments of the world have interests that often are antagonistic to the needs of their own citizens.

I've been hearing about American atrocities for so long I'm just sick of the whole mess. I can't imagine how things would be here in Canada if the US were messing with my country the way they mess with yours.

That's just the way superpowers conduct themselves.

re: 10:35 Thus, High unemployment is created, forcing individuals with very little economic options to volunteer/or "sign up" for the military.Hmmm! "theres no life like it"

The TRUE mission in Afghanistan is going ahead just as planned. The war machine needs war, right? Keep passing war spending bills, congress; keep that war machine churning.

Sick.

Ellsberg doesn't understand the motivation and goal.

The goal is not "victory," it's permanent war to justify high defense expenditures and thus profits in the defense industry, and to maintain the prestige of the generals, and increase their opportunities for obtaining a lucrative job in the defense industry after they retire from the military.

The war in Vietnam didn't end until a general's uniform in Washington was seen, not as a symbol of prestige, but as a symbol of disgrace.

It's also because the US wants to keep access and preferential economic arrangements throughout the world, access to resources and markets ect. It's about empire, the contractors want to keep that going, but without some economic benefits arising out of our conflicts, the wealthy of the US who aren't defense contractors would makes sure it got shut down. Vietnam was about land reform, foreign owners being uprooted by popular revolt. a crime an empire cannot tolerate.

The Vietnamese had actually taken their country back from the Japanese at the end of WWII, and actually thought that this gave them the right to run their own country - until the French, with US backing, decided to come back and take their old colony back.

silly of them to think their country was theirs lol.

they hate us for our "freedom", so lets sign the Patriot Act ;)

Exactly.  Bush and Obama are taking away our freedoms, but they still hate us "over there."

Obama is adding 11,000 surveillance specialists to the NSA, doubling the size of the Fort Meade headquarters.

He's not doing that because he cares about personal liberty and the right to privacy.

Al Gore spoke out eloquently about the illegal surveillance conducted by the Bush administration, but he's silent now that Obama is increasing the surveillance even more.