Yom Teruah (1 of 8) The Feasts of The Lord

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[earlysda]

This series is excellent, and i highly recommend it.

"Rapture" is commonly taught falsely. The true rapture is when the living saints, 144,000 in number, are caught up to meet their Lord in the air when he comes in the clouds. Preceeding them will be all the righteous dead who will ascend to the cloud with Jesus in it first, then we who are alive will be caught up to it.

[elskid206]

@Amidat While it is far to difficult to discuss here, I am of the opinion that the 2nd Exodus described by Jeremiah is the return from exile and will be on this plane - ordinary people suddenly awakened to who they are - and then supernaturally protected as they (we?) are gathered. That story is the same story of Israel in Egypt. That is why the Feast are so important because His people will be awakened (Trumpets) judged (Kippur) and gathered (Sukkot) then presented to the Father on the 8th day.

[Amidat]

@WitnessoftheTruth - you are correct that what is translated hell is really just the grave... but there is really is a lake of fire. If you read Isaiah's prophecies... as well as Revelation... you see that death is not the place of torture... but there will be one.. it's the Valley of Himnon. The lake of fire as seen in revelation is where all the enemies of God will go - including "hell" (the grave). As far as many of the other things... I disagree - but that is too much for this forum.

[Amidat]

@elskid206 - what most persons think of the rapture is incorrect. what Paul is describing in 1 Thessolonians is when the believers in exile (spread out through all the nations) are caught up to meet Messiah at his return. We know that is going to be at the Mt. of Olives - where He will reign on the earth. You are absolutely correct that we have to compare NT/OT. The prophesy of Zechariah was confirmed by the angel in Acts 1. From the Mt. of Olives - the way he left is how he will return.

[Amidat]

@mrshults87 - you are correct.... just as no one is residing in heaven... we believers go to sleep in the grave like everyone else... and then at the last trump all are resurrected.... some to everlasting life and some to everlasting destruction. Much of what is taught of as "rapture" is incorrect teaching.

[hinikunayuki]

@mrshults87 Research the word Harpazo.

[hinikunayuki]

@hinikunayuki whoops, I mean "Greek texts," not translation.

[hinikunayuki]

@whatjamaican Research the word 'harpazo.' It is is in the original Greek translation. Harpazo meets to be "taken up" or "snatched away," it means rapture. We get rapture from the Latin volgate "rapturo."

[whatjamaican]

@whatjamaican How can we improve?

[whatjamaican]

The word rapture doesn't appear in multiple english translations of the Bible. Can you explain why the word exists and is it truthful or an incorrect interpretation?