AR-15s SUCK!

A pick up from my last AR vs AK video

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[Cody38Super]

Hey blackriflear15, I'm curious........has anyone mentioned the AR-74 in this caliber argument?? If a 5.56 is so shitty,why did they go smaller to a 5.45?? How about that big,bad 7.62.....it's nothing but a castrated American round called the 30-06!! You wanna talk knockdown power??..............B.A.R. bitches....B.A.R.!!! End of argument.

that's not being to confrontational is it??

[blackriflear15]

@Cody38Super hell no it's not being confrontational 

[Cody38Super]

@blackriflear15 However, it is worth mentioning that a B.A.R. weighs about the same as four AK's. There's nothing wrong with AK's, I had a Valmet many years ago,and I had a ball shooting it,but they are typically Russian.....simple,rugged,crud­e,unsophisticated,and cheap to mass produce. I don't think a lot of people understand when you say that they are from two different philosophies.

[blackriflear15]

@Cody38Super No . most folks don't. They just get mad.

[VideosOfRandomActs]

Sent over here via cory07ink, love your video comparison. Funny though because cory is a big ak fanboy. my personally when the SHTF ill be taking both my ak and ar. personally ill keep my ak on the side for encounters within 50 yrd or for intimidation anything but if im going to reach out and touch from a distance my life is in the hands of my ar for consistent accuracy at longer range ie 150 yrds and beyond not saying its something i would snipe with for that my .300 wsm will take that job

[blackriflear15]

@VideosOfRandomActs thanks for stopping by

[mfgunit]

Great guns but pass their time, for God sakes, they both should be collectibles. I myself own a Saiga 308, i love it, but want to save up for possibly SCAR or FN - F2000. some fascinating technology.

[esh325]

@Cody38Super It has a lot to do with it. The 7.62x39 has a some what poor trajectory. Which means it may be harder to hit things at a distance. Agreed on the last point.

[esh325]

@Cody38Super What I said still applies to civilian and military AR15's. Yes, the original AK was always intended to be a stamped design. They had difficulties making the stamped receiver at first, then switched to a milled receiver, and in the late 1950's finally switched back to the stamped receiver.

[Cody38Super]

@Cody38Super It's always been my understanding that there are milled AK's out there,but those were the exception never the rule. The 7.62 is of course heavier and slower,but that ain't got shit to do with accuracy?! It does have to do with what you mentioned regarding the bolt..so I'll say it again..design and production.I should also say..Aluminum married with Steel..two totally different coefficients of expansion,much harder and more technical than Steel on Steel.

[Cody38Super]

@esh325 Yea,O.K., My fault. I was not considering the original Armalite M-16's. I was thinking in terms and time of it's real civilian popularity as an M4 basically.My Valmet was machined.......but it was made in Finland. I'm not an AK expert,nor do I ever hope to be,but if I remember correctly in a little show I saw about Weapons That Changed The World from TDC/The Military Chanel, the AK was always stamped,that was part of it's original design idea.

[esh325]

@Cody38Super The peep sights and how close they are to the shooters eye is one reason the AR15 is considered to be more accurate by many. The .223 is another reason the AR15 is considered more accurate. The .223 has a higher BC and is a much faster round then the 7.62x39. It's thought that the tightness of the bolt is another reason the AR15 is considered more accurate.

[esh325]

@Cody38Super Aluminum is quicker to machine. Armalite advertised the AR15/AR10 as being economical to produce even before modern CNC machines existed. The AK was machined when it first entered mass production. There are little to no accuracy differences between a machined receiver AK vs a stamped receiver AK. The accuracy of the AR15 over the AK is more complicated then just how the receiver is made.

[Cody38Super]

@esh325 You're right,given that AR's are and have always been "milled" platforms,M14's were "machined".Machining is more laborious and time consuming.So it's only due to the proliferation of CNC machines that AR's are cheap-er to produce,and it's also the reason AR's are more inherently accurate than an even more cheaply than an even simpler "stamped" weapon. Technology Baby!,Technology. The overlap is that they're both combat rifles.

[esh325]

@MikeM0331 There aren't any guarantees that somebody will die in one shot of 7.62. However, the effect of a 7.62 is usually greater then a 5.56x45.

[esh325]

@Cody38Super Yes, they do come from different philosophies. Some things intertwine between the philosophies though. Anybody who has a basic understanding of the AR knows they are simple rifles. Being cheap to mass produce was one of the big selling points of the AR15. Compared to the M14, the AR15 was a much cheaper rifle to produce.