Red Meat Health Risk

After a decade long study on the eating habits of half a million people, doctors concluded eating too much red and processed meat can increase the risk of death. Drew Levinson reports.

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[909javalos]

fuck you guys, im a bodybuilder and i put down at least 4 pounds of redmeat a day. the only side affect i have is success hammi. but i do eat alote of fish chicken and turkey to though, so ehhh

[therunningpianist42]

@upabittoolate : Also, it's interesting looking into WHY foods nowadays get preservatives added to them. One reason is how we've switched from long lasting traditional fats to industrial seed oils, which go bad very rapidly. Coconut oil can last years without preservatives at warm temps. PUFA-rich oils cannot, therefore they require preservatives. PUFA oils also have an unappetizing color. There are many, many more reasons that I am leaving out that our much more significant, however.

[therunningpianist42]

@upabittoolate : "Causal Link" is still misleading because it implies causality when "links" are purely correlative. Even if a leads to b, and b leads to c, that's not the same as a leading to c. The recent research and meta-analysis suggests that higher sat. fat intake do not correlate with increased risk of CHD or CVD. If you think meal times, preservatives, etc. not only MAKE UP for all the "deadly fat" French consume, but also IMPROVE their risk, then sat. fat must really not be that bad.

[upabittoolate]

@therunningpianist42 I said, "causal link". And if you think atherosclerosis isn't tantamount to heart disease, I'll tell you you're misled.

The French absolutely eat smaller portions because their meals have several courses. In addition, there's not much snacking if there's any snacking at all. Also, the mealtimes are when the body's insulin is most sensitive. In addition, their foods don't have as many preservatives, colorings & prep processes.

[therunningpianist42]

@upabittoolate: Saturated fat has never been shown to CAUSE heart disease. As for the French having other protective "dynamics"- from a conventional wisdom standpoint, they seem worse in many other ways. You mention mealtimes, portion size and lifestyle. The French do not eat small portion sizes or small meals throughout the day. They eat 3 meals, and snacking isn't popular there like it is in America. They also smoke more. I'd admit they do probably have much less stress than us, however.

[upabittoolate]

I said that occur in meat AND are essential. Yes, you're correct about retinol conversion. I'm not railing against red meat. Shit, I love it too. But its comsumption needs to be kept in moderation. Aside from that, the fat content has its causal links to heart disease & colorectal cancer. Need I discuss the way it's produced for consumption in the Western world?

As for your example with the French, there's other dynamics. There's diet balance, portion size, mealtimes & overall lifestyle.

[therunningpianist42]

@upabittoolate : You didn't say amino acids that ONLY occur in meat XD However, B-12 and retinol ONLY come in animal products. Some people can't convert beta carotene into retinol very well, and they also can't convert plant omega 3's like ALA to EPA and DHA very well. The evidence that red meat is harmful to us is very weak (mostly epidemiological studies) and it simply doesn't make sense in the context of our evolution. Look at the French, who eat more sat. fat and have less CHD.

[upabittoolate]

@therunningpianist42 1. Those acids occur in other food sources. 2. Leucine & tryptophan aren't essential in synthesis.

[therunningpianist42]

@upabittoolate: Um... leucine, lysine, methionine,tryptophan, to name a few.

[myhero4000]

@bundleHastings i dont think there banning red meat