Loyalty: Katherine of Aragon & Jane Seymour

I worked really hard on this one, it was for my own enjoyment and a class project too, on the subject of loyatly.
I love Tudor history, so I jumped to Katherine of Aragon and Jane Seymour. Jane became a lady in waiting to Katherine in the early 1520's. Katherine and Jane were both devout Catholics, and it showed in both of them. When Katherine was declared Princess Dowager and Anne Boleyn was claimed Queen, Jane believed Katherine was Queen as long as she was alive and though Jane served as a lady to Anne Boleyn, she most likely never saw Anne as Queen. Jane also always believed Katherine's daughter Mary was the true heir to the thone and spoke often of it during her reign, even going as far as to restore Mary to Henry's court and favour. Jane would make Mary her son Edward's Godmother.
Katherine always tried to keep her ladies proper and devout, Jane embodied Katherine's standards perfectly and Jane went onto protect and comfort her fallen Queen's daughter.

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[tiffcharmed1277]

I wanted 2 ask this question what do u think jane s would do had henry 8th show interest 2 her when she was katherine A lady in waiting; do u think she would be his mistress or do u think she would push katherine off the throne just like she did with anne when she was queen? Since u think "she loyal to katherine "like u say!

[LNor19]

@tiffcharmed1277

Jane came to court after Henry had engaged in a relationship to AB. Also, Jane had no issues with Katharine, so I highly doubt Jane would've done anything to offend her. She refused to be Henry's mistress with AB, one could easily say she would've done the same in the situation arose in some alternate timeline with KoA. And as she supported Katharine and Mary's rights to the throne, it's even more unlikely she'd "push katherine off the throne."

[gboleyn]

I think it's a little trite to say that all AB did was "scream and throw tantrums." A more nuanced reading of the accounts of men like Gile de la Pommeraye, Lancelot de Carles, Simon Grynee and a little less of the hostile Chapuys would show that she was also charming and graceful, if egotistical and neurotic. It's also projection to say that just because Jane wasn't loud and callous, doesn't mean she was unintelligent and talentless. That's true. But it also doesn't mean that she was!

[LNor19]

I didn't say that was all AB did, she promoted education and was concerned with charitable contributions. But she did have a temper that showed a less savoury side of her.

Fraser stresses Jane's intelligence.

[TudorsGossipGirlfan]

My 2 fav Queens!!!!:D nice 2 see a vid JUST about them 2:D

[gboleyn]

I agree with you that Weir who is not pro-Anne and Fraser, who is (she has a portrait of Anne on the wall of her study), are both also pro-Jane. However, David Starkey definitely is not. In his 2004 book 'Six Wives,' he refers to her as: "a woman of no family, no beauty, no talent and perhaps not much reputation." He then goes to suggest it is "a mystery" how Jane married "a man who had already been married to two such extraordinary women as Catherine and Anne?"

[chykim1]

two of my favorite queens...as i think about it, they did have quite a few things in common... janes my alltime favorite..

[ZZZANNAMARIYZZZ]

Really Jane Seymour was very loyalty to Katherine even after death of Katherine. Jane was very kind to Mary Tudor and really cared about her

[peacedesertrose]

@AmazingAesa just because somebody could not play music, does not mean they are any less intelligent, it is a talent. jane was actually very talented at needle work, but what i'm saying is maybe she wasn't interested in music and dancing, unlike anne who may not have enjoyed needlework.

[EmzLuvzCatz]

@EmzLuvzCatz *Cleves

[EmzLuvzCatz]

I love how when everyone argues about who their favourite queen is, Anne of Lleves never gets mentioned.. xD

[tiffcharmed1277]

@LNor19 All I wanted 2 know was do u think jane would be henry mistress had he took interest in her when katherine was still queen or do u think she would had said no 2 him like she did when he is with anne. what is your opinion on the matter? What choice do u think jane would had made in this situation?

[goatsinherkitchen]

@winxdancer its a bit from Delibes opera "Lakme". A very beautiful piece