Jehovah's Witnesses Elders Don't lie, We Don't Shun!
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shunning: To avoid deliberately; keep away from. <-from dictionary
Look at the JWs here who LIE and say they don't shun!
In fact, all JWs are REQUIRED to shun all ex-JWs who the elders have DF'd or DA'd. Many DF and DA haven't sinned, they just don't believe in some JW teachings anymore (NOT a sin!).
The 4/12 WT says it is "...God’s command not to associate with your disfellowshipped relatives."
Yes, the elder in the video is a liar, as are ALL JWs who say they don't shun former members.
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@jessie68ful It was brought out at the last assembly that quote, unquote..Jehovah wants disfellowshipped ones back!! Does that sound like shunning to you??? Jehovah loves us all..even disfellowshipped persons and he doesn't wish for any of us to lose out on the opportunity of losing out on eternal life on the paradise earth to come.
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@fourlokoJoker Yes indeed. Its all a matter of interpretation and just what and who is being protected and why. And "truth" is NOT ripping apart families, is NOT child abuse and cover ups- protecting the abusers, 3 witnessess to validate a childs account. Crazy transparent self serving rules, designed to protect the dogmatic grown up -in age only male dominated organisation. But its biblical right ?so its ok. Didnt the bible say suffer little children. Well thats cert happening.
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sounds right only the true religion will keep its organization clean with no hypocritics
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If a person is a Witness and commits an immoral act, HE is the one committing it. Lying, stealing, immorality, gambling, extorting money, sex outside marriage, ALL THESE ARE SERIOUS SINS.
If the person is UNREPENTANT, then the Congregation has no choice at all.
But what if a Brother slips in a lesser, but still serious way. Then the INDIVIDUAL and not the Congregation, decides whether to shun that person FOR A WHILE.
The Brother in the video makes this very clear and I agree with him.
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Listen carefully to what the Brother says, and he says that "shunning" is something WITHIN the Congregation.
Shunning is not about inactive Witnesses, in fact, and this is kinda odd, the WT article wasn't even about Apostates either.
And it clearly said a person "shunned" WAS STILL TO BE CONSIDERED A BROTHER.
So 'i's gotten all twisted to mean something EXACTLY the opposite.
Say a Brother looses his cool and lets out a swear word. THAT is where shunning comes in, and not permanent.
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What was so arrogant about what he said?
I don't get him being arrogant at all. He speaks softly, in a very considerate manner. He certainly is not lying - unless you don't like what he says is lying ?
The myth is that somebody who becomes an inactive Witness is shunned.
Not true, because I wasn't when I was inactive for a few years.
Shunning has NOTHING to do with Ex Witnesses. Read WT 1999 that started it all, it's about a Brother WHO *IS* A WITNESS AND DID SOMETHING INAPPROPRIATE.
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religion what a sad joke
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They are Pharisee descendents with their snake like tongs, twisting the truth. Do they actually take time to really sit back and ponder on what they learn and what they say? or is it forbidden?
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This is kind of a non-issue-removing a person from fellowship is a biblical standard-repentance brings them back into fellowship. The issue with JW's is that they will disfellowship a person just for questioning a doctrine or an elder, which are NOT sins. Rather, it is quite biblical to question, if there is concern of possible error, which the JW's are rife with. Error is what they are all about. But there are bigger fish to fry than this subject.
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JW=Chrstadelphians
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ELDER= SATAN ACCUSERS OF THE BROTHERS,SECRET POLICE OF THE ILLUMINADI..UNDER CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES. U.K. LAW CODE AND BANK LAW.. DEBT=SIN.SLAVERY UNDER LAW. BABEL=DOUBLE MEANING, AMBIGUITY,ONE LAW AND IT'S MEANINGS AND JURISDICTION FOR SLAVES AND ONE LAW AND DIFFERENT LAWFUL MEANING FOR SO-CALLED FREE PEOPLE. 8TH NEW ORDER[NIMROD'S BABYLON 1ST].UNDER HEROD'S PHARISEES-[ILLUMINADI ]. ANGLO-AMERICAN 7TH WORLD POWER.PARTNERS WITH ROME.6TH WORLD POWER.JESUS FREED US FROM THESE LIARS
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@eternityandforever JWs know the Bible? LOL JWs have their place in hell reserved and are satan's chariot.
John 3:16 KJV
John 14:6 KJV
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I am trying to educate people.They claim we are so wrong.I have PROOF JW's are RIGHT.They really do follow the bible, and study alot. We are truly following Jesus Christ Our Dear Lord! Proverbs 4:14,15-Into the path of the wicked ones do not enter, and do not walk straight on into the way of the bad ones.Shun it, do not pass along by it;turn aside from it, and pass along.Isaiah 33:15;2 Timothy 2:16-Shun empty speeches.2 Timothy 4:4-turned aside.2 Corinthians 8:20;6:3.Romans 14:13
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JW's follow the bible VERY CLOSELY.God removes those who are wicked.He removed Adam from the garden of Eden AFTER he sinned.This ALONE gives PROOF that God rejects sinners by removing/shunning them!READ Genesis 3:24.Then read Deuternonomy 17:7-clear out what is bad.Deut.13:5-clear out what is evil.Romans 16:17-avoid them.2Thessalonians 3:14-If anyone is not obedient to our word through this letter,keep this one marked,stop associating with him.2 John10,11-a sharer in wicked works
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This religion is shit, but no more than all the others. My dad (who's a JW) said something along the lines of "There are people out there who deserve a shovel and bullet in their brains." yesterday. Jehovah's loving people my ass. All I see are easily deceived, fault-ridden humans.
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@corduroy1nfatuation well it was used when I was a JW for 20 years
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@Truthbookblues but why would he deny it? Shunning was used when I was a JW.
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funny,,, my dad was disfellowshipped in 1975... i went back to those ppl like a dog going back to its vomit.... the first thing they did was tell me that unless it was important, that i should CUT OFF TIES UNLESS ITS NECESSARY to see him. so this man like the WT is from his father the devil, the father of the lie....
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The Creator is the way.
@vincenz55 I like how when the JW's prophecy fails the excuse is, "the light was getting brighter", but when it's anyone outside the JWs they are a false prophet. I like how at the 2010 convention the overseer said you cannot trust man at ALL, but then goes on to say to trust the organization, which is controlled.. by man. I like how the society warns not to read any outside publications saying "to the making of books there is no end" yet they release a new book every convention.
UNSUNGBAND 1 year ago 7
@eternityandforever Oh come on!.. reading from a script? keep doing that and after a while there is no going anywhere at all as all navigational and thinking skills are so impared from lack of use. So you stay where you are told. And thats why its called a cult.
jessie68ful 1 month ago