How Sam Harris Demonize Islam? Used Anglo Quran in Argument
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Nobody demonizes islam. There would be no need for it. Islam does a fine job demonizing itself, and has done so ever since it first reared it's ugly head 1400 years ago.
Islam is a vile, hateful, anti-intellectual, violent, totalitarian cult, and it was founded by a hate-mongering slave-trading child-raping mass-murdering pig-shit warlord.
I bear witness that there is no evil but allah, and muhammad is his tool for evil.
Now call me a "zionazi", which seems to be the only insult you know.
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How about muslims leave the West alone and go back where you came from.
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I don't think its religion most Jews are not that religious, most Israelis are secular we'd never vote in theocrats. I will say that all religion sucks but I think that Islam poses unique challenges, especially where Muslims are in numbers: Britain, France, Sweden, Denmark, Norway, France they don't like Jews and I doubt there will ever be peace.
That is why I dislike religion but particularly hate Islam NOT all muslims.
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@ByTheShortAndCurlies Never said the palestinians did get exterminated. I'm just saying that both Arabs and Jewish people are Semitic people, and the reason they just can't live together under a 2 state solution is because of religion. If you don't agree to that, then you are ignoring history. It's not "just" political. There are many, many groups of people, living in the same country across the world, and it works fine, so why doesn't it work in Palestine? Religion.
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@translationwiz I do not "detest" myself, what I detest is when people don't understand what happens when they have an ideology that is infallible, you guys think Islam is the answer to everything, which I am trying to tell you 5 billion other people on earth don't agree to. And if you want to live in world were there is no war, and there is justice, and peace and love, you will get no where by saying you will destroy anyone who doesn't agree with you. That is my point.
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I've come to see my deen like an excellent Restaurant. I love it. And whether others love it or not? Fine. Less crowds, faster service for me. I'm done arguing w/these geniuses&humanistic tree lovers&liberators of women. In America today? Another baby is missing. They suspect the dad. These guys man. What did the Messiah say? PBUH.......Remove that BEAM from your eyes, then U can see clearer, to remove that speck in your brothers eyes. Inna Lillah...
Peace/salam
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The so called Palestinians have not been exterminated by Israel in fact they have been used as political pawns denied full rights, killed expelled by their Arab brothers. We have 20% of Israels population that are Arabs. The Palestinians have a bombing birth rate, better infant life expectancy than their neighbours, more food/supplies spent on them than any other "refugee group" a unique status and an obesity problem which is hardly annihilation or extermination by any standards.
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Yes most Jews are a people and nation, some can be described as an ethno-religious group as the relationship is very blurred however anybody can convert to Judaism and become Jewish and thus part of the people and nation. And yes you are correct most Jew were born Jewish and are not orthodox.
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We "invaded" no country based on religious text we were there first 1800 years before the Islamic invasion/occupation. One doesn't need a bronze age book of mythology to prove a legal claim, nor an historic one.
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@ByTheShortAndCurlies Well, if you are making a point to me about injustice towards jews over the centuries you are talking to a wall. I am perfectly aware of the persecution of jews, but that doesn't mean invading a country based on religious text is a good idea, which is my point. Both sides of this argument are failing ridiculously because they are both under the impression they have "rights" on the land from a holy book. They need to stop with this barbary both of them.
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@obaidkarki I do not espouse Zionism, because I dislike nationalism based on religious affiliation like for instance Pakistan. It only creates more animosity among the people, and different groups tend to get violent, because it is a serious subject religion. However, i agree with the argument that, if a jew born in brooklyn has a right to land in Palestine, then a palestinian born in Jerusalem has also. The only thing that seperates Palestine right now is religion.
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@ByTheShortAndCurlies I have no knowledge of this Sand character, however, what I do know, is that a jewess friend of mine says that most non-rabbinical jews today mostly identify with the nationality of being israeli, not the effect of jewish religion itself. You must correct me if i'm wrong.
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This is for ObaidKarki. You are obviously a man of probably a more modest religiosity, and seem like a gentle person to me. But however, when you say things like this, it seems to me that instead of acknowledging the fact that the Koran and Islam plays a vital part in destroying democracy and forcing people to accept totalitarian regimes in the middle east, you are excusing it with some zionist conspiracy theory instead. Acknowledging the problem in Islam right know might actually help the world
Faerlon123 1 month ago
@Faerlon123 it was the rise of anti-Semitism in Eastern and Central Europe and the ensuing Jewish Holocaust, coupled with the collapse of the Ottoman Empire and the British occupation of the Middle East that made the creation of a Jewish state possible.
The Invention of the Jewish People
by Shlomo Sand
obaidkarki 1 month ago
@Faerlon123
Sand, a professor of history at Tel Aviv University, challenges the biblical and conventional history of the Jewish people. He attempts to prove that Israeli Jews as well as those Jews who are citizens of other states are not the direct descendants of the ancient people who inhabited the Kingdom of Judea during the First and Second Temple period but include peoples that converted to Judaism during the course of history, mostly in the Mediterranean Basin and its periphery.
obaidkarki 1 month ago
@Faerlon123
Sand concludes that the Jews should be seen as a religious community comprising a mishmash of individuals and groups that had converted to the ancient monotheistic religion but do not have any historical right to establish an independent Jewish state in the Holy Land. In short, the Jewish People, They certainly do not have a political claim over the territory that today constitutes Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories, including Jerusalem
obaidkarki 1 month ago
@obaidkarki
Jewish people are an nation, ethno-religious group/people although Judaism accepts converts and that convert can become part if said people, nation his/her children when thus be part of that ethno-religious group as can be seen by the Chinese, Indian and Ethiopian Jews.
Jews have a legal , historic, archaeological, genetic (for the most) claim. Some remained in that land for well over 3300 years. Arabs have no such claim the modern day Palestinians are mostly generic Arabs.
ByTheShortAndCurlies 1 month ago
@ByTheShortAndCurlies
you can't have democracy on stolen land
the holly land you are talkn' about is in saudi arabia got get it
obaidkarki 1 month ago