Universal Health Care Democratic Debate 01-21-08

Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards explain their proposals for Universal Health Care at the January 21st, 2008 South Carolina Democratic Debates.

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[aaasssfffdddiii]

@Dendiol Um, I'm sure the NHS is popular in the UK, because most in the UK don't know that America actually has it better. Most probably assume that it is the best they can get.

In America, you won't find conservatives criticizing social security and medicaree very often because they are popular, even though they are in crumbles financiallly...

[Dendiol]

@aaasssfffdddiii Search for 'NHS better than American healthcare' in the Telegraph (a right-wing newspaper) and tell me the NHS is in "crumbles".

I am proud to live in a country where people can access healthcare regardless of their ability to pay. America needs to lose it's fear of anything vaguely 'socialist' as it is far from perfect across many areas.

[aaasssfffdddiii]

@Dendiol Well, it may seem "immoral" to you. But, I would rather live in an immoral system with up to date technology and quick access to top notch cancer care than a "moral system" with waiting times and out of date technology. I think it is immoral to have only 44.8% of men survive cancer... (when it is much higher in a country that does medicine very differently, even if you think it is immoral)

[Dendiol]

@aaasssfffdddiii It is not in "crumbles", and although not perfect, the NHS is vastly superior to your unethical healthcare system. Americans boast about living in the 'land of the free'. Land of the 'held hostage by medical corporations' sound more realistic.

[aaasssfffdddiii]

@Dendiol Those statistics are all the most recent ones. The 60% of Doctors saying that people suffer from long waits from Diagnostic tests was from the Commonwealth Fund in 2007. The other statistic about cancer survival is from Lancet Oncology in 2007.

[Dendiol]

@aaasssfffdddiii I disagree. Come back with up to date statistics and try again.

[aaasssfffdddiii]

@Dendiol The UK Health Care System is in crumbles. 60% of UK doctors say that people suffer long waiting times for Diagnostic tests. Cancer survival rates are far higher in America than they are in the UK. For example, American men have a 66.3% survival rate for all cancers. In England, the number is 44.8%. A stark difference...

Single Payer Health Care Systems are like the old Soviet... everything is free, but there are chronic shortages, outdated technology, and long waiting times...

[dab0331]

@mrsthursday my personal finances & ability to buy my own personal insurance would be pretty good if a borrowed a million dollars every month but someday the bills will be come to.

THAT is the point.

[dab0331]

@mrsthursday the main point dufus is that universal healthcare is CORPORATE WELFARE!!

which is not just immoral it is unsustainable. the only reason theyre able to even remotely continue it is becuz of central banking which merely prints out money out of thin air. in other words: easy credit

but it puts the country as a whole into massive debt. the EU and the US is now reaping the fruits of it. that's why theres riots in ireland, greece, portugal, spain, etc

& why the debt ceiling is an issue

[mrsthursday]

@dab0331

You're just throwing anything in the mix and making a hell of a mess. Stick to the main point and you'll come across clearly. You see no reason why people who need medical care and can't afford the premiums should get treatment on par with those that can afford the premiums. The UK where I was born & Canada where I've lived have medical coverage for all but their systems are completely different. See my point yet? The US system would be unique to them.