JOHN 1:1 The Greek grammar examined

A brief look at the Greek grammar with comments by several scholars. They totally debunk the Watchtower claim that the absence of he definite article demands John 1:12b be translated as "the Word was a god." It also shows the Oneness Pentecostal denial of the eternal distinctness of the Word's person is untenable.

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Education

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• Greek grammar
• John 1:1
• biblical exegesis
• cults
• theology

[raitasorin]

Was talking craps and nonsenses he diesn't dont know nothing about greek

[Blogrich55]

@raitasorin "Was talking craps and nonsenses he diesn't dont know nothing about greek"

Would you mind telling us who you are talking about? A correct sentence requires a subject (^_^)

[Lukelovesthelord]

Keep it real... God shares his glory and worship with nothing...nothing. Notice the angel's response to John in revelation 19:10. How then can John say to Honor the Son, just as you honor the Father. You really dont have to be a greek major to see the Trinity unfold. Genesis Let Us creat man in Our image. Isaiah 6 Whom shall I send,And who will go for Us? According to any other belife, God changed at some point and decided to share His glory with a creature. Hello folks! Father Son Spirit = God

[pixcomputer]

the oldest known translation of john 1:1 was the coptic translation. ϨΝ ΤЄϨΟΥЄΙΤЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝϬΙ ΠϢΑϪЄ ΑΥШ ΠϢΑϪЄ ΝЄϤϢΟΟΠ ΝΝΑϨΡΜ ΠΝΟΥΤЄ ΑΥШ ΝЄΥΝΟΥΤЄ ΠЄ ΠϢΑϪЄ -- Sahidic Coptic text Transliterated Hn te.houeite ne.f.shoop ngi p.shaje Auw p.shaje ne.f.shoop n.nahrm p.noute Auw ne.u.noute pe p.shaje Literally, the Sahidic Coptic says: In the beginning existed the word And the word existed in the presence of the god And a god was the word.

[ultimatemaijn]

προς (pros) should be translated as "to" or "toward" because με (may) usually means with.

[agnostaxian]

@TheMessianicGentile John 1:1 is clear that the word was eternal with God but an even more explicit statement about the eternal nature of the Son is John 8:58 where the JW's purposely distort the translation to say "Before abraham was, I have been". This is a laughable translation. "Ego Eimi" is used over and over by John and it always means "I am" usually used before a statement of who Jesus was "I am the good shepherd" "I am the way..." etc..

[Blogrich55]

@TheMessianicGentile

You seem to like using their tired, disproved, arguments a lot.

[Blogrich55]

@TheMessianicGentile "@4.00 I agree that The God and The logos are two distinct beings."

The Father and the Son (Logos) are NOT two distinct Beings. They are two distinct Persons. I have NOT said they were two distinct Beings.

[Blogrich55]

@TheMessianicGentile "My conclusion is we agree that The creator (The God) and The Logos (The son) are two distinct being"

No Brother Samuel, they are the SAME Being.

[Blogrich55]

@TheMessianicGentile "early Christian writers such as Justin Martyr 103AD-165AD believed these texts, specifically Proverbs 8:22, referred to Christ in his prehuman existence"

Why should we have to agree with Justin Martyr?