The Zornhau (Wrath Hew)

Updated version of our interpretations for this section of our curriculum. These plays are in the same order as they are presented in our solo form video.

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Sports

Tags:

• liechtenauer
• longsword
• zornhau
• HEMA
• martial arts
• memag
• wrath cut
• combat
• fighting
• medieval
• kunst des fechtens
• ringeck
• talhoffer

[CollegiumInArmis]

Hey chaps. As you know Cory, I'm toying with a different abnahmen concept... essentially, the geschranckt ort you do to defend against the zornort, also works beautifully when he displaces our zornort with strength - it certainly flows more smoothly and fits with the other winden in the stucke. Does it meet the text description... well, when lifting the hilt one could be said to be pulling the sword up and away, and the cut/zwerch around certainly resembles a wrenching action. Just a thought!

[MEMAG]

Hey Bill. I may have mentioned this, but Lecküchner has a version of the Abnehmen that has you wind out to the right, which specifically tells you to keep the long edge facing down towards the ground. After the opponent displaces this winding out you perform the Abnehmen. The important thing in this play is the emphasis on keeping the long edge down with the wind, which sets up the straight-up-and-back-down abnehmen. I think if you didn't have the long edge down an ablauffen would be best.

[AdamWhistle]

Question: I know you guys focus on rehearsing on the books but how do you rate these practises to be realistic? I mean, if the thing went for blood and murder, you can't truly expect the opponent to follow your pre-learned steps.

After all, its resistance that separates theory from practise when it comes to martial arts (or as they called them, "military sciences"). Would you hold up the things you show here as usable against an determined and well-trained opponent?

[MEMAG]

You must first practice the correct actions in training before you can competently and consistently apply them in free-fencing. Sequences are used to teach concepts and the correct courses of action in each given situation. Everything shown in the video has been tested against a resisting opponent and has been found to work in free-fencing.

[Kunstdesfechtens]

Another thing to keep in mind is that these techniques are intended to (as much as is possible) force the opponent into a predictable defence. Notice how many techniques threaten with a stab in the face... this is more likely to draw a "flinch response" which is then easier to follow up if the thrust to the face doesn't hit. These techniques are basically ways of taking advantage of certain common reponses. :)

[MEMAG]

Exactly!

[27slava68]

Класс!!! Суупер!!!!

[l3054]

i thought you were supposed to block with your flat not the edge

[DedObed]

May I have a question? Have you guys seen the Zornhau or the Zwerchhau video on the kohutovic channel? And could you please state your opinion on the difference in both the way of performing and interpretation itself?

Thank you for an early reply incoming.

[hybredmoon]

This is beautiful. I've watched a lot of 'sword fights' on youtube and this is by far the most practical and useful looking style I've seen. The economy of motion is superb. Fencing isnt about wild swings and all of that craziness. It's a game of leverage and positioning. A beautiful and deadly dance.

[calderwis]

Well done. Those instructions are none too clear.

[sukumvit]

Another one curious about the music!

(not that the swordplay is not interesting...)

It's the same chord progression as Corvus Corax "Mille Anne Passe Sunt" and Mediaeval Baebes "Adam Lay Ibounden" but who did this particular arrangement?

[sxlfkta]

Brilliant, just Brilliant!!!

[lebarosky]

Query: what role did armor play in these techniques? It seems that the various plays from the high guard were devised for armored fighters. Is that probable?

[VaultCult]

I'm curious; what is this music?

[DomusUlixes]

very nice!

[cqc75]

Are the swords that your'e using the ones by hanwei.