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Shamar on the role of the Dalai Lama in the Karmapa's recognition.avi

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Uploaded by on Apr 14, 2011

Taken from a documentary by Rishi Jindal, exploring the debate around the death and reincarnation of His Holiness the16th Karmapa. This clip shows Shamar describing that the confirmation of His Holiness the Dalai Lama regarding the prediction letter left by the late 16th Karmapa was unnecessary and without historical precedent. His Eminence Tai Situ Rinpoche clearly demonstrates the relationship that His Holiness the 13th Dalai Lama had in supporting the confirmation of the 16th Karmapa, and that the confirmation of his Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama of His Holiness the 17th Karmapa is appropriate and welcome.

Karmapa Chenno!

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  • none seems to be Tibetan here, why are the so worries.its our matter and we will sort it out. Shamar rinpoche was in audience with His Holiness the Dalai lama in Kalimpong and both seems to be OK. please stay away fromTibetan issues..it makes matter worse and china on the other side have huge influence... if you are true dharma practitioner.... don't judge.

  • Only Thaye Dorje is the genuine Karmapa.Karmapa Khyenno!!!

  • Situ Rimpochoe makes sense what he is saying. BTW who is that Nepali? Is he Nepali Rimpochoe who recognize another Nepali karmapa?

  • who is this old fag in white shirt ??? motha fukka trying to drag hh to the court .......faking ugly douche .he is not even tibetan

  • who is this old fag in white shirt ??? motha fukka trying to drag hh to the court .......faking ugly douche .

  • We are followers, but we are not blind followers, and when we see it for ourself, when we verify through traditions , history and science, it is the Karma Kagyu Lama themselves who find the Karmapa , and more prominently, it has been the Shamarpas who have been recognising the Gyalwa Karmapas based on meditations and other divine signs. Karmapa Thaye Dorjee has been a great teaacher teaching students all around the world.

  • Sharmapa is the only one who can acknowledge the Karmapa. This has been a long tradition in the Karma Kagyu Lineage. Sharmapa recognized Thaye Dorje as the 17th Karmapa.HH Thinley Thaye Dorji is the real 17 th Karmapa

  • The tradition is no proof. Anybody can say, I am the reincarnation of such and such a guy of the past. Nowbody can confirm it anyway, not even a Dalai Lama. So you should stop this silly quarreling. Are you not conserned about your enlightenment and getting out of Samsara? It does not sound so.

  • HHDL received a letter in April, 2011 frm followers to accept that Thaye Dorje is the authentic & only Seat Holder of Rumtek.

    Why is HHDL involved in this controversy in the Karma Kagyu sect?

    Shouldn't this situation be left to kagyupas to resolved?

    There has been long standing conflict & controversies within Rumtek & this letter states that HHDL's support towards Situ Rinpoche's activities, believed to be collaborated wth China.

    See letter posted on the dorjeshugden(dot)com news section.

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